Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales

2016-02-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/19/2016 10:54 AM, Ralph Stirling wrote: > I'm very intrigued by these Inductosyns. I assume > the several hundred mA drive is an AC waveform. > What frequency is used? In general, whatever you want, but for the AD2S1200 chip I use in my converter board, it is 10KHz, sine wave. >

Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales

2016-02-19 Thread Ralph Stirling
-phase? -- Ralph From: Jon Elson [el...@pico-systems.com] Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 6:23 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales On 02/18/2016 01:23 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > Do you know accur

Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales (Disc position)

2016-02-18 Thread Jerry Scharf
Maybe these have changed a bunch since I looked at them, but the way they *used to* work was there was a lead screw that did coarse positioning, then a mirror and lens under audio frequency servo feedback loops looking at the reflection pattern to see how close to the center of the pattern it is.

Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales (Disc position)

2016-02-18 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 20:47:28 -0800 Chris Albertson wrote: > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Nicklas Karlsson > wrote: > > > I guess it would be possible to position an ordinary disc read head quite > > accurate. Either one for DVD/CD

Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales

2016-02-18 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > I guess it would be possible to position an ordinary disc read head quite > accurate. Either one for DVD/CD or magnetic. How many bits are stored per > turn? > Those devices use the data that is recorded

Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales

2016-02-18 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 4:32 AM, Dave Cole wrote: > > > > Never thought about the Enco catalog, good idea. > > The digital calipers; I think they have their own serial protocol?I > could live with a 250 ms update time on the position so something like > that could

Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales

2016-02-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/18/2016 01:23 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > Do you know accuracy of the linear resolvers? > > I guess it would be possible to position an ordinary disc read head quite > accurate. Either one for DVD/CD or magnetic. How many bits are stored per > turn? > > > GE pin scales are fairly low

Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales

2016-02-18 Thread Dave Cole
There are some very similar units on Ebay as well, but at higher prices. Good to know that these work well.. Thanks, Dave On 2/18/2016 5:36 PM, Marshland Engineering wrote: > Try here > > Great products with covers and mounting hardware. > >

Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales

2016-02-18 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Hello Nicklas On 02/19/2016 03:23 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > Do you know accuracy of the linear resolvers? http://www.ruhle.com/linear_transducers.htm states +/-1um, I was surprised it was not better > I guess it would be possible to position an ordinary disc read head quite > accurate.

[Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales (Jon Elson)

2016-02-18 Thread richshoop
Viesturs L?cis) 7. Re: Mesa 5i25 firmware - is there a mistake? (Peter C. Wallace) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 09:17:29 -0800 From: Mark Johnsen <m...@ijohnsen.com> Subject: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scale

Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales

2016-02-18 Thread Marshland Engineering
Try here Great products with covers and mounting hardware. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Design-5um-aluminium-alloy-DC10-optical-linear-scale-encoder-ruler-measuring-from-50-300mm/1697688495.html Cheers Wallace.

Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales

2016-02-18 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
Do you know accuracy of the linear resolvers? I guess it would be possible to position an ordinary disc read head quite accurate. Either one for DVD/CD or magnetic. How many bits are stored per turn? On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 01:51:05 +0800 TJoseph Powderly wrote: > somebody with

Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales

2016-02-18 Thread Dave Cole
All good info guys. Those magnetic sensors are really appealing. I want to try those. Siko Global gave me a quote for some magnetic heads and 10" of tape and that setup is just under $700 for one sensor, tape and cable which is actually more than the Balluff sensors we were looking at. That

Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales

2016-02-18 Thread TJoseph Powderly
somebody with more time than me (tm) could try the linear resolvers like skunkworks had it looked as if they could be made as pcb's http://www.google.com/patents/US4705971 http://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/application-notes/394309286AN263.pdf google for inductosyn iirc Jon

Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales

2016-02-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/18/2016 06:32 AM, Dave Cole wrote: > > > Are the Chinese glass scales on Ebay ok from what you have heard? > There is at least one 8" device for $200 or less listed.I like > saving $$ but if the device is unreliable it will cause a lot of issues. Well, I don't know. Most likely, for a

[Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales

2016-02-18 Thread Mark Johnsen
t; > Subject: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <56c4ebb7.2040...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > > I'm shopping for some linear/glass scales for a custom industrial machin

Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales

2016-02-18 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 02/18/2016 04:32 AM, Dave Cole wrote: > > > On 2/17/2016 9:17 PM, Jon Elson wrote: >> On 02/17/2016 03:52 PM, Dave Cole wrote: >>> I'm shopping for some linear/glass scales for a custom industrial machine. >>> >>> I only need to read 8" of travel. >>> >>> Does anyone know of an economical

Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales

2016-02-18 Thread Dave Cole
On 2/17/2016 9:17 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 02/17/2016 03:52 PM, Dave Cole wrote: >> I'm shopping for some linear/glass scales for a custom industrial machine. >> >> I only need to read 8" of travel. >> >> Does anyone know of an economical solution.I'd like full quad >> outputs - ttl would

Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales

2016-02-18 Thread Dave Cole
Thanks Philipp, This is for an industrial machine and the competition is a Baluff sensor which measures over an 8" stroke. The quote for the Baluff device came back at almost $1200. So it shouldn't be too difficult to beat that price, I hope! :-) I sent Siko an inquiry. Dave On 2/17/2016

Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales

2016-02-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/17/2016 03:52 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > I'm shopping for some linear/glass scales for a custom industrial machine. > > I only need to read 8" of travel. > > Does anyone know of an economical solution.I'd like full quad > outputs - ttl would be ideal. > I don't need super resolution or

Re: [Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales

2016-02-17 Thread Philipp Burch
Hi Dave! On 17.02.2016 22:52, Dave Cole wrote: > > I'm shopping for some linear/glass scales for a custom industrial machine. > > I only need to read 8" of travel. > > Does anyone know of an economical solution.I'd like full quad > outputs - ttl would be ideal. > I don't need super

[Emc-users] Linear / glass Scales

2016-02-17 Thread Dave Cole
I'm shopping for some linear/glass scales for a custom industrial machine. I only need to read 8" of travel. Does anyone know of an economical solution.I'd like full quad outputs - ttl would be ideal. I don't need super resolution or accuracy. .001" would be sufficient. Thanks, Dave