Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-23 Thread Dave Cole
On 2/23/2015 1:49 PM, dave wrote: > Weber Systems wrote EZ-Trol http://www.webersys.com/ Synergy looks a bit like Ez-trol but I don't see any free copies of Synergy being given away or links to the source code... only a 30 day free trial. Perhaps we have a different idea of what is "Public Do

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-23 Thread dave
On 02/23/2015 09:19 AM, Dave Cole wrote: > On 2/23/2015 11:12 AM, dave wrote: >> IIRC Weber Systems wrote EZ-Trol for Smithy. A couple of years ago >> it was moved to public domain. > I don't recall that ever being mentioned on the EMC2/LinuxCNC email list? > > Where is it at?? > > Dave It i

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-23 Thread Dave Cole
On 2/23/2015 11:12 AM, dave wrote: > IIRC Weber Systems wrote EZ-Trol for Smithy. A couple of years ago > it was moved to public domain. I don't recall that ever being mentioned on the EMC2/LinuxCNC email list? Where is it at?? Dave --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast anti

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-23 Thread dave
On 02/19/2015 09:02 AM, Dave Cole wrote: > Trademarking doesn't do much other than allowing someone/thing to take > some ownership of a name to make sure that someone else can't openly use > the same "name". > > Remember when EMC2 became LinuxCNC? That was due to what EMC saw as a > trademark inf

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-19 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 2/19/2015 10:02 AM, Dave Cole wrote: > Trademarking doesn't do much other than allowing someone/thing to take > some ownership of a name to make sure that someone else can't openly use > the same "name". > > Remember when EMC2 became LinuxCNC? That was due to what EMC saw as a > trademark infri

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-19 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 2/19/2015 9:13 AM, Len Shelton wrote: > > Your logic falls apart when > > DISPLAY = PathPilot > > yet PathPilot *includes* the Gremlin display. > > It further fails to pass muster when the headline reads: > Introducing PathPilot™, Tormach’s new machine controller > > rather than: > Intro

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-19 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 2/19/2015 2:57 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: > If I sold hardware, used LinuxCNC, and developed a proprietary user > interface, with the purpose of providing the customer a superior > ergonomic and comfortable feel when using my machines, then I would also > refrain from making it OSS. (We have

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-19 Thread Andreas Pettersson
This is correct, if they "distribute" the software in any way, they are supposed to provide the source code within that distribution (See siemens and samsung installation discs). But later on with GPL you were also supposed to publish your work for download (This is rarely followed). That is any

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday, February 19, 2015 04:27:53 AM Andreas Pettersson wrote: > There is actually a universal "drop-in" made by Nick Drobchenko over at > the russian site "cnc club" > He calls it "Features", and it a veeery flexible conversational.. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOJhT69WEc Looks in

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-19 Thread Dave Cole
Trademarking doesn't do much other than allowing someone/thing to take some ownership of a name to make sure that someone else can't openly use the same "name". Remember when EMC2 became LinuxCNC? That was due to what EMC saw as a trademark infringement. (Which I still think was BS.. ) If t

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-19 Thread Pete Matos
Where's the damn Like Button Len... LOL Pete On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Len Shelton wrote: > > Your logic falls apart when > >DISPLAY = PathPilot > > yet PathPilot *includes* the Gremlin display. > > It further fails to pass muster when the headline reads: > Introducing PathPilo

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-19 Thread Len Shelton
Your logic falls apart when DISPLAY = PathPilot yet PathPilot *includes* the Gremlin display. It further fails to pass muster when the headline reads: Introducing PathPilot™, Tormach’s new machine controller rather than: Introducing PathPilot™, Tormach’s new GUI for LinuxCNC ...especia

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-19 Thread R.L. Wurdack
Has any of these guys read ""Just for Fun"" or ""Rebel Code"" ? Trying to corner open source is a failed strategy. Dick - Original Message - From: "Erik Christiansen" To: Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:57 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-us

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-19 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 18.02.15 14:35, Bruce Layne wrote: > Early on, I did say that I doubted a lot of that code will be open > source, and frankly I still do for the user interface and conversational > wizards. They made a substantial investment to develop some of that > code and I think they'd probably like to

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-19 Thread Andreas Pettersson
There is actually a universal "drop-in" made by Nick Drobchenko over at the russian site "cnc club" He calls it "Features", and it a veeery flexible conversational.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOJhT69WEc Download link; https://github.com/cnc-club/linuxcnc-features // Andreas John Alexande

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-19 Thread John Alexander Stewart
Andy - > > > the LinuxCNC community develops a case of PathPilot envy, someone will > > write an open source version. > > > > http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/41-guis/26550-lathe-macros > > :-) > > you have been elected to now do the same for Mills. :-) John. --

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/18/2015 07:38 AM, sam sokolik wrote: > I had/have been doing a lot of testing of the new trajectory planner of > Robs. (I didn't know or was told that he was working for Tormach - I > was upset for about 2 seconds.. :) ) I don't know how they found Rob > but wow - they sure picked the right

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 February 2015 at 19:35, Bruce Layne wrote: > If someone in > the LinuxCNC community develops a case of PathPilot envy, someone will > write an open source version. > http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/41-guis/26550-lathe-macros :-) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-18 Thread Bruce Layne
Hi Erik, You, and at least one other person, are definitely missing my point. I'll take the blame for not expressing myself properly. I'll try again. I am not disparaging Tormach. At all. As I've said, I believe their switch to LinuxCNC will be good for them and for their customers. In fac

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-18 Thread Todd Zuercher
Wednesday, February 18, 2015 6:44:15 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?) The way the upgrades were described, the hardware sounded very MESA-ish, so I wasn't surprised to see that it was. However, Tormach does seem to be interested in conveying the impression that the sof

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-18 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 18.02.15 06:44, Bruce Layne wrote: > They do admit that LinuxCNC is the underlying software, but claim they > made substantial improvements, when they apparently paid for open source > code to be developed by someone else. No, it makes no difference whether a contractor works on-site or off -

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-18 Thread Dave Cole
Sam... Remember the email list conversations that Rob and you had with the Mach3 crew a while back? That now puts those conversations in an entirely different light. If you want a great discount on a slant back lathe or small mill, now might be the right time to speak up! :-) Dave On 2/18/

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-18 Thread Dave Cole
On 2/18/2015 6:44 AM, Bruce Layne wrote: > Does anyone know if they > created their nice looking graphical front end, or did they subcontract > that as well? It's fine by me either way, but I am curious. There really is no difference between the two. I subcontract to other companies who sell t

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-18 Thread sam sokolik
I had/have been doing a lot of testing of the new trajectory planner of Robs. (I didn't know or was told that he was working for Tormach - I was upset for about 2 seconds.. :) ) I don't know how they found Rob but wow - they sure picked the right guy to do it. The TP re-write was huge and st

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-18 Thread Bruce Layne
The way the upgrades were described, the hardware sounded very MESA-ish, so I wasn't surprised to see that it was. However, Tormach does seem to be interested in conveying the impression that the software and hardware were created by Tormach. http://www.tormach.com/blog/pathpilot-beta-testing

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-18 Thread Belli Button
Ah, 5i25, kewl! Does this mean we can 'borrow' their software for our own machines?? -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:pkm...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 February 2015 12:51 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?) 2015-02-18 12

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 February 2015 at 10:50, Andrew wrote: > > It's MESA. > Look at http://www.tormach.com/document_direct_download.html?doc_id=893 , > Figure 6 > LinuxCNC _and_ hardware stepping. The customers won't know what has hit them :-) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-18 Thread Andrew
2015-02-18 12:34 GMT+02:00 Belli Button : > I'm more curious about the hardware, do you think they are using 5i25 from > Mesa or is it something of their own? > > It's MESA. Look at http://www.tormach.com/document_direct_download.html?doc_id=893 , Figure 6 -- Andrew --

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-18 Thread Andreas Pettersson
That should PCW be able to answer.. If there been a buyup of MESA cards, that would be big buisness i imagine. ;) // A Belli Button skrev den 2015-02-18 11:34: > I'm more curious about the hardware, do you think they are using 5i25 from > Mesa or is it something of their own? > > > > > -

Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

2015-02-18 Thread Belli Button
I'm more curious about the hardware, do you think they are using 5i25 from Mesa or is it something of their own? -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharg