Re: [Emc-users] Velocity and Acceleration Interaction .

2008-11-18 Thread Kim Mortensen
To eliminate the questions about the direction pin timing, I resoldered the steppers so that the conf of EMC were not using inverted pins, not that it changed anything in my case.. but I may not have been suffering from the symptoms you describe. Best Regards Kim Mortensen 2008/11/18 BRIAN GLAC

Re: [Emc-users] Velocity and Acceleration Interaction .

2008-11-18 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
Just a thought, but could this be a power down issue like Kim noted with a HobbyCNC board? That also was dominant on the Z axis. Setting the amp enable and a board mod to let EMC manage it fixed my missed step issues. Brian --

Re: [Emc-users] Velocity and Acceleration Interaction .

2008-11-17 Thread John Kasunich
Dave Houghton wrote: > > Steve wrote > Loosing steps on change of direction is a relatively common fault, it > seems to show up more on Z axis, it's usually caused by having the wrong > pulse direction. If it's active high, invert it to active low, or vice > versa. > > Steve Blackmore > -- > OK

Re: [Emc-users] Velocity and Acceleration Interaction .

2008-11-17 Thread Dave Houghton
Steve wrote Loosing steps on change of direction is a relatively common fault, it seems to show up more on Z axis, it's usually caused by having the wrong pulse direction. If it's active high, invert it to active low, or vice versa. Steve Blackmore -- OK Thanks I can certainly do that. But will

Re: [Emc-users] Velocity and Acceleration Interaction .

2008-11-17 Thread Dave Houghton
Rayh wrote Moving up more likely to miss steps than down is true if the backlash compensator on Z is properly set so that you feel equal resistance both ways while hand cranking the axis. When you do this you should remove all power from the drive and unplug that stepper motor. Rayh Hello Ray Set

Re: [Emc-users] Velocity and Acceleration Interaction .

2008-11-17 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:54:40 +0200, you wrote: >I'm trying to figure out the best way to avoid missed steps especially in >the Z axis, with my Sherline mill. Lets say my max vel.=7.5mm/sec, and max >acc=15mm/sec^2 (sorry to inch users) as set up with 'stepconf'. During the >manufacture of this li

Re: [Emc-users] Velocity and Acceleration Interaction .

2008-11-17 Thread Dave Houghton
Chris Radek wrote. When you say Sherline a big red light comes on in my head. There has been a lot of talk lately about the timing parameters in stepconf. If your Z is slowly creeping down, I bet some timing is wrong. An acceleration or velocity problem with Z moving up won't generally lose

Re: [Emc-users] Velocity and Acceleration Interaction .

2008-11-17 Thread Ray Henry
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 00:54 +0200, Dave Houghton wrote: > Now as I understand it is more likely to lose steps going up (mill > head weight) than down. So by the time I get to the twentieth cut, with > missed steps etc. it could be cutting a few thou' deeper than it should. Now > that's a disaster I

Re: [Emc-users] Velocity and Acceleration Interaction .

2008-11-17 Thread Dave Houghton
John Kasunich wrote> > Acceleration remains the same. A rapid move at 7.5mm/sec (450mm/min) with an acceleration of 15 mm/sec^2 will take one-half second to get up to speed, and one-half second to slow down again - 7.5mm/sec divided by 15mm/sec^2 is 0.5 seconds. A slow cutting move at 0.16

Re: [Emc-users] Velocity and Acceleration Interaction .

2008-11-17 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:54:40AM +0200, Dave Houghton wrote: > Hello Everyone > > I'm trying to figure out the best way to avoid missed steps especially in > the Z axis, with my Sherline mill. When you say Sherline a big red light comes on in my head. There has been a lot of talk lately about

Re: [Emc-users] Velocity and Acceleration Interaction .

2008-11-17 Thread John Kasunich
Dave Houghton wrote: > Hello Everyone > > I'm trying to figure out the best way to avoid missed steps especially in > the Z axis, with my Sherline mill. Lets say my max vel.=7.5mm/sec, and max > acc=15mm/sec^2 (sorry to inch users) as set up with 'stepconf'. During the > manufacture of this littl

[Emc-users] Velocity and Acceleration Interaction .

2008-11-17 Thread Dave Houghton
Hello Everyone I'm trying to figure out the best way to avoid missed steps especially in the Z axis, with my Sherline mill. Lets say my max vel.=7.5mm/sec, and max acc=15mm/sec^2 (sorry to inch users) as set up with 'stepconf'. During the manufacture of this little item the milling head will go u