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On 03/19/15 10:38, LeRoy wrote:
> People do not realize that the minute they use their cell phone
> they are transmitting a radio signal that can be picked up by a
> scanner.
Just noting that some of us are acutely aware of issues like this. :)
(O
> I see it as our job to keep up the fight and warn those around us
> about the dangers not locking your front door.
In the United States, the Second Amendment to our Constitution
guarantees us the right to keep and bear arms. This often leads to me
having some interesting differences of opinion
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On 03/18/2015 05:34 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> As tool developers and distributors, we do have an influence on
> what's possible and what's easy for people to do. i think it's
> only responsible to try to use that influence for good.
>
>
>
A few thoughts on my own experience...
My friends who do not encrypt all say they have nothing to hide, or I only
email regular stuff and the government are welcome to read it and get bored,
that's the standard response I get.
Only one commented, "Will I have to do anything different from what
A few thoughts on my own experience...
My firiends who do not encrypt all say they have nothing to hide, or I only
email regular stuff and the government are welcome to read it and get bored,
that's the standard response I get.
Only one commented, "Will I have to do anything different from what
On Wed 2015-03-18 15:24:50 -0400, Doug Barton wrote:
> I've done what you've done in the past, sit down with a room full of
> people and explain to them how PGP works, the barest of fundamentals
> they need to know in order to get started, and walked through some demo
> e-mails. I've done this w
On 3/18/15 1:10 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
That's a totally non-sequitur argument...
That's because it's not an argument. It's showing you that you're
arguing from one particular viewpoint, and the other viewpoint is every
bit as valid. They are just as correct to question your existence as
> That's a totally non-sequitur argument...
That's because it's not an argument. It's showing you that you're
arguing from one particular viewpoint, and the other viewpoint is every
bit as valid. They are just as correct to question your existence as
you are to question theirs. And they are als
On 3/18/15 12:49 PM, Onno Ekker wrote:
On 18-3-2015 20:24, Doug Barton wrote:
I'm not sure that's necessary ... a good graphics person could come up
with a "least common denominator" button that would fit in with all 3
platforms.
In add-ons it is perfectly possible to create different skins f
On 3/18/15 9:01 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
I should add that one of the outcome if the usability study we had
last year showed that this is an important function and that such a
button was missing -
Was that study published anywhere? If not, can you make it available? I
would love to know
On 18-3-2015 20:24, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 3/18/15 5:54 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
>> On Wed 2015-03-18 03:23:04 -0400, Doug Barton wrote:
>>> On 3/17/15 11:03 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
My composition toolbar currently already has:
Send | Spelling | Attach | S/MIME | Sav
I like the 'Attach My Public Key' button, its so handy where it now is...
Ian
On 19/03/15 06:35, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 3/18/15 7:53 AM, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
>>> But what percentage of overall enigmail users are they, and how
>>> likely are they to blindly send their key to a keyserver rather
On 3/18/15 7:53 AM, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
But what percentage of overall enigmail users are they, and how
likely are they to blindly send their key to a keyserver rather then
blindly click a button to attach their public key?
Try turning your question around. Consider if one of them were to
On 3/18/15 5:54 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
On Wed 2015-03-18 03:23:04 -0400, Doug Barton wrote:
On 3/17/15 11:03 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
My composition toolbar currently already has:
Send | Spelling | Attach | S/MIME | Save
Yes, that's the default, and I have those as well (ico
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On 03/18/2015 12:01 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> I should add that one of the outcome if the usability study we had
> last year showed that this is an important function and that such a
> button was missing - especially for beginners who don't wan
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On 18.03.15 15:53, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
>> But what percentage of overall enigmail users are they, and how
>> likely are they to blindly send their key to a keyserver rather
>> then blindly click a button to attach their public key?
[...]
>
> If
> But what percentage of overall enigmail users are they, and how
> likely are they to blindly send their key to a keyserver rather then
> blindly click a button to attach their public key?
Try turning your question around. Consider if one of them were to ask,
"But what percentage of overall Enig
On Wed 2015-03-18 03:23:04 -0400, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 3/17/15 11:03 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
>> My composition toolbar currently already has:
>>
>> Send | Spelling | Attach | S/MIME | Save
>
> Yes, that's the default, and I have those as well (icons and text).
thanks for the reportback
On 3/18/15 12:17 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
You can move all icons to the "upper" toolbar if you want to (using
the right mouse key -> Customize). The new toolbar is a regular
Thunderbird toolbar; you can freely move the icons between the two.
I am aware, but thank you for your response in a
On 3/17/15 11:46 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
Um, since when? Hasn't the CW always been to have the user upload
their key to a key server?
Emphatically: no!
There are places in the world that will throw you in jail for using
crypto. People in these places tend to, and probably are correct to,
On 3/17/15 11:03 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
On Wed 2015-03-18 01:39:06 -0400, Doug Barton wrote:
I buy that argument, but it seems much more reasonable to me to make
sign and encrypt buttons that show up in the composition toolbar. This
would mean that we get the same usability improvement,
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On 18.03.15 06:39, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 3/17/15 8:00 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
>>
>>> On 18/03/15 12:43, Doug Barton wrote:
Were the buttons for encrypt and sign moved up to their own
toolbar instead of the old icons at the b
> Um, since when? Hasn't the CW always been to have the user upload
> their key to a key server?
Emphatically: no!
There are places in the world that will throw you in jail for using
crypto. People in these places tend to, and probably are correct to,
avoid using keyservers for fear they'll come
It just seems common sense to send your key to a new contact. I use it all the
time when making a new contact.
On 18/03/15 17:03, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> On Wed 2015-03-18 01:39:06 -0400, Doug Barton wrote:
>> I buy that argument, but it seems much more reasonable to me to make
>> sign and
On Wed 2015-03-18 01:39:06 -0400, Doug Barton wrote:
> I buy that argument, but it seems much more reasonable to me to make
> sign and encrypt buttons that show up in the composition toolbar. This
> would mean that we get the same usability improvement, but no additional
> screen real estate wou
On 3/17/15 8:00 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
On 18/03/15 12:43, Doug Barton wrote:
Were the buttons for encrypt and sign moved up to their own toolbar
instead of the old icons at the bottom because the latter was too
subtle? Would it not make more sense to put them in as default
buttons on
I second that
On 18/03/15 14:00, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> On Tue 2015-03-17 22:51:18 -0400, Ian Mann wrote:
>> I have used the beta, and participated in nightly, and 1.8 is perfect to me.
>> I like it just how it is.
> I also think the message composition toolbar is a great usability
> improv
On Tue 2015-03-17 22:51:18 -0400, Ian Mann wrote:
> I have used the beta, and participated in nightly, and 1.8 is perfect to me.
> I like it just how it is.
I also think the message composition toolbar is a great usability
improvement. Thanks for all the hard work that went into making
something
I have used the beta, and participated in nightly, and 1.8 is perfect to me. I
like it just how it is.
Ian
On 18/03/15 12:43, Doug Barton wrote:
> I just installed 1.8, and I'm seeing the attached ... is this intended? I
> have a lot of concerns ...
>
> Were the buttons for encrypt and sign mov
I just installed 1.8, and I'm seeing the attached ... is this intended?
I have a lot of concerns ...
Were the buttons for encrypt and sign moved up to their own toolbar
instead of the old icons at the bottom because the latter was too
subtle? Would it not make more sense to put them in as defa
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