Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-10-06 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:18:18 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:16:58 +1000 David Seikel > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > Menus are still the only source of e17 crashes, but it is more > > stable than the last update. On the other hand,

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-10-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:16:58 +1000 David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Updated from cvs (it worked smoothly today), all the icons and menus are > where they should be under all conditions, no slow down. > > Menus are still the only source of e17 crashes, but it is more stable > than the l

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-27 Thread Robert May
That worked perfectly! I really appreciate your help! Now for me to comb through the cvs updates to see what you changed to fix it. The hunt begins. On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 11:21 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 18:54:05 -0400 Robert May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > >

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-27 Thread David Seikel
Updated from cvs (it worked smoothly today), all the icons and menus are where they should be under all conditions, no slow down. Menus are still the only source of e17 crashes, but it is more stable than the last update. On the other hand, I've only been using it for half an hour. Got things to

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-26 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 03:42:15 +1000 David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:03:26 -0500 Frederick Reeve > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't know if this is related at all but I just did a cvs update and > > all my eaps are working nicely in engage, ibar, ect. How

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-26 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 18:54:05 -0400 Robert May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Ohhh no! Now none of my submenu's are appearing correctly! In > the /home/pokey/.e/e/applications/all directory I had created subfolders > for my eap's based on their usage (ie Games, Development, Internet, > etc...)

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-26 Thread Frederick Reeve
This problem has been resolved thx Raster. :-) Frederick Reeve wrote: I don't know if this is related at all but I just did a cvs update and all my eaps are working nicely in engage, ibar, ect. However none of them now show up at all in: the ALT+tab list, the Minimized list, on the window bor

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-26 Thread David Seikel
It's been quite a few minutes since I posted my full eap cache report to this list, and it hasn't turned up yet. I was gonna reply to it with a quick addendum. I'll put it here instead, and hope that these two messages don't get onto the list in the wrong order and confuse people. In the cases w

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-26 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:03:26 -0500 Frederick Reeve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know if this is related at all but I just did a cvs update and > all my eaps are working nicely in engage, ibar, ect. However none of > them now show up at all in: the ALT+tab list, the Minimized list, on > th

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-26 Thread David Seikel
Here is my report on the new cache stuff, but first. On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:03:26 -0500 Frederick Reeve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know if this is related at all but I just did a cvs update and > all my eaps are working nicely in engage, ibar, ect. However none of > them now show up at

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-25 Thread Gabriel Rossetti
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 23:40:14 +0200 Gabriel Rossetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: Can't you just cache the eaps that need to be visible? I doubt that he has hundreds of eaps in his ibar/engage. yes and no. the scheme i am working

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-25 Thread Frederick Reeve
I don't know if this is related at all but I just did a cvs update and all my eaps are working nicely in engage, ibar, ect. However none of them now show up at all in: the ALT+tab list, the Minimized list, on the window borders and all apps show up as the question mark in engage after started. T

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-25 Thread Robert May
Ohhh no! Now none of my submenu's are appearing correctly! In the /home/pokey/.e/e/applications/all directory I had created subfolders for my eap's based on their usage (ie Games, Development, Internet, etc...). Thus making it considerably easier to manage the 900+ eaps that I had. Now that

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-25 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:55:08 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:29:47 +1000 David Seikel > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > Let me know when I can try it out. > > now - well wait 6-12hrs till it hits anon cvs :) Umm, yesterday, up for 30

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:29:47 +1000 David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:24:43 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 03:10:12 +1000 David Seikel > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > > > the background' tricks

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-24 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:24:43 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 03:10:12 +1000 David Seikel > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > the background' tricks to X. At the moment, the bulk of getting > > logged in graphically is spent in X before it

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 08:35:50 +1000 David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > It's 8 in the morning here, and I've been awake since some vague time > way back in yesterday. I may be rambling. I also have no idea what I'm > talking about, since I have not looked at the code or the design. > > O

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:40:56 +1000 David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Just so we have some figures to get a handle on this, I did some timing > tests on the e17 I got from cvs this morning. > > This is on my Athlon XP 3000+ with Barton Core, ASUS A7V333 MoBo, 512 MB > DDR 333 KingMax RAM

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 23:40:14 +0200 Gabriel Rossetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Can't you just cache the eaps that need to be visible? I doubt that he > has hundreds of eaps in his ibar/engage. yes and no. the scheme i am working on shouldn't matter - it can cche the whole lot in a few kb of c

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 03:10:12 +1000 David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 00:33:07 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 22:26:44 +1000 David Seikel > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > > > takes seventeen seconds

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-23 Thread David Seikel
Just so we have some figures to get a handle on this, I did some timing tests on the e17 I got from cvs this morning. This is on my Athlon XP 3000+ with Barton Core, ASUS A7V333 MoBo, 512 MB DDR 333 KingMax RAM, UltraDMA PATA controller and matching hard drives, and nVidia GeForce4 MX 440. While

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-23 Thread David Seikel
It's 8 in the morning here, and I've been awake since some vague time way back in yesterday. I may be rambling. I also have no idea what I'm talking about, since I have not looked at the code or the design. On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 23:40:14 +0200 Gabriel Rossetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can't y

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-23 Thread Gabriel Rossetti
Can't you just cache the eaps that need to be visible? I doubt that he has hundreds of eaps in his ibar/engage. It would speed things up if the visible eaps are stored in a big file (ie when you add them to ibar or engage or a menu) and load the others if they are needed later on? 10 times out of 9

RE: Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-23 Thread dan sinclair
> While on the subject of excessive eap collections, managing 1641 eaps > with entangle using a thin, scrollable strip of them is a real pain. Is > it possible for a theme to make that a big, wide area for the eaps? > Smaller icons? Organise them in the same way that e17genmenu organises > the

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-23 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 00:33:07 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 22:26:44 +1000 David Seikel > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > takes seventeen seconds to boot on a test box that is one tenth the > > power of my Athlon. > > 17 seconds! you ca

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-23 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 22:26:44 +1000 David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Last whinge for today, honest. > > One of the big selling points for me about e17 is it's lightning quick > startup time. When using SuSE, I have to put up with three minute > booting time on my Athlon 3000+, so when

[E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-23 Thread David Seikel
Last whinge for today, honest. One of the big selling points for me about e17 is it's lightning quick startup time. When using SuSE, I have to put up with three minute booting time on my Athlon 3000+, so when logging onto KDE, having it take thirty seconds to grind to a start just adds insult to