Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2018-02-15 Thread James Pearson
James Pearson wrote: >>> >>> While we’re making adjustments, the section on “How do I configure >>> Firefox for my organization?” should definitely link to the actual >>> community-supported answer to that question, namely >>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Enterprise_deployment. >>> T

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-12-28 Thread James Pearson
James Pearson wrote: > Schuetz, Zach wrote: >> >> While we’re making adjustments, the section on “How do I configure >> Firefox for my organization?” should definitely link to the actual >> community-supported answer to that question, namely >> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Enterprise

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-12-21 Thread James Pearson
Schuetz, Zach wrote: > > While we’re making adjustments, the section on “How do I configure > Firefox for my organization?” should definitely link to the actual > community-supported answer to that question, namely > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Enterprise_deployment. > The “Enterpr

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list

2017-12-20 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > > Fear of following a blind lead into wiki-rot zombies, and the > > changes over time in mark-up front ends made this page > > off-putting to this new editor > > > > But, yes, making sure the cited URL is linked and regularly > > reviewed, would

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list

2017-12-20 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 12/20/17 2:04 PM, R P Herrold wrote: > On Wed, 20 Dec 2017, Schuetz, Zach wrote: > >> While we’re making adjustments, the section on “How do I >> configure Firefox for my organization?” should definitely >> link to the actual community-supported answer to that >> question, namely > >> http

[Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-12-20 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017, Schuetz, Zach wrote: > While we’re making adjustments, the section on “How do I > configure Firefox for my organization?” should definitely > link to the actual community-supported answer to that > question, namely > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Enterprise_

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-12-20 Thread Schuetz, Zach
] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR) Notice: This email is from an external sender. Please use caution before clicking links or opening attachments. I say this needs stronger wording: We encourage those who are deploying Firefox ESR to sign up for the

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-12-19 Thread Robert Solomon
I say this needs stronger wording: We encourage those who are deploying Firefox ESR to sign up for the Mozilla Enterprise mailing list available in English, French and German. This list is a great place to discuss deploying Firefox with other community members. Regular communications regarding pro

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-12-18 Thread James Pearson
James Pearson wrote: > > If anyone is interested, Mozilla have made available a 'screenshot' of > the proposed replacement page for > https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/ at: > >https://screenshots.firefox.com/lUwglCpTWahzqgkZ/127.0.0.1 > > This also merges in the current ESR

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-12-05 Thread Robert Solomon
Yes, thank you. On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 5:10 AM, James Pearson wrote: > James Pearson wrote: >>> I believe the 'problem' is the web page at: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/ This is the page that most people will arrive at when searching for info >>

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-12-05 Thread James Pearson
James Pearson wrote: >> >>> I believe the 'problem' is the web page at: >>> >>> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/ >>> >>> This is the page that most people will arrive at when searching for info >>> about the ESR release > ... > > I thought I would report this as an issue vi

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list

2017-12-01 Thread Martin Hecht
e email that you have sent to me in private, so that others involved in this discussion have the chance to see your request and also my reply to it. Note that I'm just a subscriber to the list, just like you. Forwarded Message Subject:Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] In

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list

2017-11-30 Thread Isaac Flores
licks. > Original Message >From: Martin Hecht >To: enterprise@mozilla.org >Sent: Jue, Nov 30, 2017, 9:00 AM >Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly >subscribe to this list > >On 11/30/2017 02:55 PM, Stephen Koppes wrote: >> I'm starti

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list

2017-11-30 Thread Martin Hecht
On 11/30/2017 02:55 PM, Stephen Koppes wrote: > I'm starting to wonder if perhaps there is also an unknown issue > preventing the unsubscribe from working as intended? I was thinking about this too, and actually tried both options successfully: unsubscribing  by sending an email (many people migh

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list

2017-11-30 Thread Stephen Koppes
I'm starting to wonder if perhaps there is also an unknown issue preventing the unsubscribe from working as intended? I've never tried to unsubscribe myself, nor have I setup a dummy account to test with. For many requesting an unsubscribe, I've gone through the steps to try and 'help them' unsub

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list

2017-11-30 Thread james.mckenzie1
hanks -Original Message- From: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] On Behalf Of The Wanderer Sent: 30 November 2017 12:52 To: enterprise@mozilla.org Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list This mail originated from outsid

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list

2017-11-30 Thread The Wanderer
On 2017-11-30 at 02:01, Janusz S. Bień wrote: > On Thu, Nov 30 2017 at 4:48 CET, wande...@fastmail.fm writes: >> I'm reasonably sure that the reason why it is the way it is is that >> the Mozilla people expect/assume that the only people downloading >> or installing the ESR will be sysadmins, an

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-11-30 Thread James Pearson
Sylvestre Ledru wrote: > > On 29/11/2017 10:56, James Pearson wrote: > >> I believe the 'problem' is the web page at: >> >>https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/ >> >> This is the page that most people will arrive at when searching for info >> about the ESR release >> >> Unfortun

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list

2017-11-29 Thread Janusz S. Bień
On Thu, Nov 30 2017 at 4:48 CET, wande...@fastmail.fm writes: > On 2017-11-29 at 12:58, Robert Solomon wrote: > [...] >> Beginning and end of the story. > > I'm reasonably sure that the reason why it is the way it is is that the > Mozilla people expect/assume that the only people downloading or

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-11-29 Thread Dave Yeo
On 11/29/17 07:48 PM, The Wanderer wrote: On 2017-11-29 at 12:58, Robert Solomon wrote: The landing page for ESR is here: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/ On this page it says: "Before proceeding, we strongly encourage Firefox ESR users to sign up for the Enterprise Working

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-11-29 Thread The Wanderer
On 2017-11-29 at 12:58, Robert Solomon wrote: > The landing page for ESR is here: > https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/ > > On this page it says: "Before proceeding, we strongly encourage > Firefox ESR users to sign up for the Enterprise Working Group (EWG) > mailing list. ", wit

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-11-29 Thread Robert Solomon
The landing page for ESR is here: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/ On this page it says: "Before proceeding, we strongly encourage Firefox ESR users to sign up for the Enterprise Working Group (EWG) mailing list. ", with a clickable subscribe link. Should say: "If you are a sy

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-11-29 Thread Kris Lou
> > unsubscribe from this list, please visit https://mail.mozilla.org/ > listinfo/enterprise or send an email to enterprise-requ...@mozilla.org with > a subject of "unsubscribe" > > in addition to visiting that listinfo page, you have to: > - enter the subscribed email address into the form field

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-11-29 Thread Isaac Flores
Mensaje original- De: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] En nombre de Crawford, Roger Enviado el: miércoles, 29 de noviembre de 2017 08:08 a.m. Para: enterprise@mozilla.org Asunto: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE:

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-11-29 Thread Crawford, Roger
Sorry, but I think “send an email to enterprise-requ...@mozilla.org with a subject of "unsubscribe"” is pretty self-explanatory ( Roger On 11/29/17, 9:05 AM, "Enterprise on behalf of Martin Hecht" wrote: one reason some people that fail to unsubscribe from the list might be that the i

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-11-29 Thread Martin Hecht
one reason some people that fail to unsubscribe from the list might be that the instructions at the bottom of each email do not describe the complete procedure: > ___ > Enterprise mailing list > Enterprise@mozilla.org > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/e

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-11-29 Thread service
Please take me off this list Ronnie McDaniel On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 4:17 AM -0600, "Dave Ewart" wrote: On Wednesday, 29.11.2017 at 10:58 +0100, Sylvestr

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-11-29 Thread Dirk Schneider
A lot of admins I know is not becoming this profession as default. Some are native mathematic, physics, electronic or something else professional and sliding into an IT job ... So define, what is a real sysadmin? And is a person, who manages the it environment in a business but didn't become a BSc

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list

2017-11-29 Thread Eric Valk's (mobile)
Hi Sysadmins I’m a techie but not a Sysadmin, joined the mailing list about a week ago for the wrong reasons. What is happening is that Firefox is now deploying Quantum (vers 57), in doing so a bunch of users are loosing their favourite extension, including one very popular extension which isn’t

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-11-29 Thread Dave Ewart
On Wednesday, 29.11.2017 at 10:58 +0100, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: > [...] It is surprising to have potential sysadmin unaware of the > (un)subscription process of a mailman mailing list. I think that's the point: these people *are not* sysadmins. It could be that Firefox ESR has been recommended t

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list

2017-11-29 Thread Sebastian Metzger
I think especially because of the recommendation to use 52ESR in the last months, when needing NPAPI-plugin support, inveigled many consumers to install 52ESR and maybee also subscribe to this mailing list. Best regards Sebastian Metz

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-11-29 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
On 29/11/2017 10:56, James Pearson wrote: > Informatique wrote: >> Dear fellow sysadmins, >> >> These episodes of bunch of guys trying to get out of the list and >> figuring how to do so happens quite frequently. They are not techies >> (otherwise they would figure out how to unsubscribe themselves

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-11-29 Thread James Pearson
Informatique wrote: > > Dear fellow sysadmins, > > These episodes of bunch of guys trying to get out of the list and > figuring how to do so happens quite frequently. They are not techies > (otherwise they would figure out how to unsubscribe themselves), > showing that they should not have subscr

[Mozilla Enterprise] Investigate why so many people wrongly subscribe to this list (was: RE: Quantum ESR)

2017-11-29 Thread Informatique
Dear fellow sysadmins, These episodes of bunch of guys trying to get out of the list and figuring how to do so happens quite frequently. They are not techies (otherwise they would figure out how to unsubscribe themselves), showing that they should not have subscribed in the first place. It appe