Re: EOS Shooting before frame 1

2001-02-02 Thread F. Craig Callahan
Hugo Gävert wrote: > I think you got my point, Yes, I did. And perhaps I should have said something to the effect of, "of course not every subject or every occasion demands (begs for?) in-depth treatment or a wide variety of shots from different vantage points." fcc * *** ***

Re: EOS Shooting before frame 1

2001-02-02 Thread Hugo Gävert
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, F. Craig Callahan wrote: > Hugo Gävert wrote: > > > Many times I'm really wondering what would be the > > best way to expose this scene - if film didn't cost, I could then just > > shoot with AEB every time. > > That would hardly lead to better photos. To get better photos,

Re: EOS Shooting before frame 1

2001-02-01 Thread Tim Munro
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Re: EOS Shooting before frame 1

2001-02-01 Thread F. Craig Callahan
Hugo Gävert wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, F. Craig Callahan wrote: > > > To travel all that way and then try to save a few frames seems . . . > > counterproductive. > > "Loss of photos" and "counterproductive"... not everybody think like that. > You talk like a pro who went there to shoot, wher

Re: Why frame 0? [was: EOS Shooting before frame 1]

2001-02-01 Thread Grega Fenko
- Original Message - From: "F. Craig Callahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <> > With manual-loading cameras, you can sometimes get a useable image at frame 00 > (although personally I always "wasted" that frame just to be sure). Also with > manual-load cameras, the film doesn't line up exactly the

Re: EOS Shooting before frame 1

2001-02-01 Thread Hugo Gävert
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, F. Craig Callahan wrote: > Hugo Gävert wrote: > > > I know your pain (though I don't have to pay that much for film)... I've > > never understod those who say film is cheap > > Relative to the cost of your equipment . . . and to the loss of photos that > can't be reproduced

Re: Why frame 0? [was: EOS Shooting before frame 1]

2001-01-31 Thread F. Craig Callahan
Bob Meyer wrote: > --- Thomas Bantel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Many (all?) films even have a frame 00 before frame > > 0. I don't know if there are cameras that can > > actually use this frame. > > I think the 00 (along with 1A, 2A, etc) are for use > with half frame cameras, which shoo

Re: Why frame 0? [was: EOS Shooting before frame 1]

2001-01-31 Thread Jim Davis
>--- Thomas Bantel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Many (all?) films even have a frame 00 before frame > > 0. I don't > > know if there are cameras that can actually use this > > frame. > > I think the 00 (along with 1A, 2A, etc) are for use > with half frame cameras, which shoot double the norma

Re: EOS Shooting before frame 1

2001-01-31 Thread F. Craig Callahan
Hugo Gävert wrote: > I know your pain (though I don't have to pay that much for film)... I've > never understod those who say film is cheap Relative to the cost of your equipment . . . and to the loss of photos that can't be reproduced. Or the cost of travel: Not long ago I was at the top of I

Re: Why frame 0? [was: EOS Shooting before frame 1]

2001-01-31 Thread Bob Meyer
--- Thomas Bantel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Many (all?) films even have a frame 00 before frame > 0. I don't > know if there are cameras that can actually use this > frame. I think the 00 (along with 1A, 2A, etc) are for use with half frame cameras, which shoot double the normal number of 1

RE: Why frame 0? [was: EOS Shooting before frame 1]

2001-01-31 Thread Kotsinadelis, Peter (Peter)
Thomas Bantel WROTE: Many (all?) films even have a frame 00 before frame 0. I don't know if there are cameras that can actually use this frame. There are cameras, though, that can routinely squeeze 38 or even 39 frames out of regular 36 exp roll. Thomas Bantel __

Re: EOS Shooting before frame 1

2001-01-31 Thread Thomas Bantel
Hugo Gävert wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Yes, I want to get more shots per roll. This is because here in Brazil > > I pay 15 dollars for a 36 exp roll of Provia F. I've been using > > I know your pain (though I don't have to pay that much for film)... I've > ne

Re: Why frame 0? [was: EOS Shooting before frame 1]

2001-01-31 Thread Thomas Bantel
--- Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's also interesting that my first shot > always lines up with the > number 1 on the film. Why they put a number 0 on it > is something else... > Many (all?) films even have a frame 00 before frame 0. I don't know if there are cameras that can actua

Why frame 0? [was: EOS Shooting before frame 1]

2001-01-31 Thread Bob Meyer
--- Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's also interesting that my first shot > always lines up with the > number 1 on the film. Why they put a number 0 on it > is something else... Many tiny little point and shoots do get an exposure at frame zero, because so little film has to be pulled

Re: EOS Shooting before frame 1

2001-01-31 Thread Hugo Gävert
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yes, I want to get more shots per roll. This is because here in Brazil > I pay 15 dollars for a 36 exp roll of Provia F. I've been using I know your pain (though I don't have to pay that much for film)... I've never understod those who say film is

Re: EOS Shooting before frame 1

2001-01-30 Thread Bob Sull
Jim Davis wrote: > I don't think it's worth it trying for extra shots, in fact there's no > way I can think of to do so other than taking a chance of breaking > something.( like manually rewinded a bit in the dark) > We'll have to try and get a better deal on film if cost is the factor.

Re: EOS Shooting before frame 1 (to Jaco de Klerk)

2001-01-30 Thread Nick Taylor
Ney Martins de Oliveira wrote: > Agradeco imensamente sua resposta gentil, util e pertinente, assim como > a fineza e elegancia do seu humor. Espero que o espirito que norteia > esse humor esteja presente em todos os momentos da sua vida. bien dicho! * *** **

RE: EOS Shooting before frame 1

2001-01-30 Thread Kotsinadelis, Peter (Peter)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi! > > Is there any way to start shooting before frame 1 with the Canon EOS 5? > Thanks for any info. > > Ney. ___ The EOS SLRs are not like the old mechanical cameras where you crank it and can get an e

Re: EOS Shooting before frame 1 (to Jaco de Klerk)

2001-01-30 Thread Ney Martins de Oliveira
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jaco de Klerk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > YES, sure you can. Simply shoot one (or more!) hole(s) through the film > leader before loading the film. Any firearm will do. > > 8^/ > > Jaco > Agradeco imensamente sua resposta gentil, util e pertinente, assim como a fine

Re: EOS Shooting before frame 1

2001-01-30 Thread Jim Davis
- Original Message - From: Bob Sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 7:55 AM Subject: Re: EOS Shooting before frame 1 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > Is there any way to start shoot

Re: EOS Shooting before frame 1

2001-01-30 Thread Bob Sull
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi! > > Is there any way to start shooting before frame 1 with the Canon EOS 5? > Thanks for any info. > > Ney. Do you mean on the part that gets exposed when you pull it from the cassette? I have the EOS-5 and know of no way to do this. You put the start of the

Re: EOS Shooting before frame 1

2001-01-30 Thread Jaco de Klerk
YES, sure you can. Simply shoot one (or more!) hole(s) through the film leader before loading the film. Any firearm will do. 8^/ Jaco * *** *** * For list instructions, including unsubscribe, see: *http://www.a1.nl/phom

Re: EOS Shooting before frame 1

2001-01-30 Thread neyoliv
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hugo Gävert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > Is there any way to start shooting before frame 1 > > > with the Canon EOS 5? > > > Thanks for any info. > > Why? I take it that you want to get more shots out of the roll, rig

Re: EOS Shooting before frame 1

2001-01-30 Thread Searle, Art
> Is there any way to start shooting before frame 1 with the > Canon EOS 5? You cannot shoot before frame one. But if what you want is to shoot beyond exposure 24 or 36, you could tape over the DX code and manually set ISO. Art * *** ***

Re: EOS Shooting before frame 1

2001-01-30 Thread Hugo Gävert
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Is there any way to start shooting before frame 1 > > with the Canon EOS 5? > > Thanks for any info. Why? I take it that you want to get more shots out of the roll, right? I think the EOS 5 is also unfamiliar with the length of the film as is my EOS

Re: EOS Shooting before frame 1

2001-01-30 Thread Bob Meyer
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi! > > Is there any way to start shooting before frame 1 > with the Canon EOS 5? > Thanks for any info. Well, I guess maybe you could load film, remove the battery, then go into a darkroom and manually wind some film back into the cart, close the back, and replac

EOS Shooting before frame 1

2001-01-30 Thread neyoliv
Hi! Is there any way to start shooting before frame 1 with the Canon EOS 5? Thanks for any info. Ney. * *** *** * For list instructions, including unsubscribe, see: *http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/eos_list.htm ***