Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-18 Thread Jim Davis
> Did you mean using Full-Time Manual focussing to "touch" up the > focus? It doesn't really need CF-4, just one-shot focussing. > > Still, I don't think the AF sensors will light up in the same way > as green mode. > > Perhaps switching to MF mode will produce the same effect, but > green mode i

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-17 Thread Julian Loke
> "Jim Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... I have a custom function set so I can manually touch up my > focus manually in one shot mode. Do you use this custom function > on your 7? I'm not sure what difference it makes, perhaps the focus > lock light stays on, I think you can touch-up your fo

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-16 Thread Julian Loke
> "Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does ECF seem to work reliably in Auto Mode? Hi Kim, The ECF selection in Green mode appears to work the same as in other modes. Same calibration; same problems. I find that ECF is more successful if, while looking at the subject, I bring the Elan 7E to my e

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-16 Thread Julian Loke
> "Chris T. Daida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just to clarify: do you mean that focus assist will not work > with 3rd party lenses? I have an Elan 7e on the way, and I > own a frequently used Tokina. Hi Chris, Sorry, I was a bit unclear. I meant that the lens (Canon or off-brand) has to be ele

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-16 Thread Kim
> To me, the green mode mechanism seems very natural: use ECF to choose> a point, and then the camera indicates what else will be in focus too. Does ECF seem to work reliably in Auto Mode? > Do you think there is any way to replicate the green mode function in > the other modes? Not that I'm a

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-16 Thread Chris T. Daida
Julian Loke wrote: > > Focus assist is not as useful as a split-image focussing screen, > but it is better than nothing. Unfortunately, focus assist only > functions with an EF or TS-E lens mounted, and will not work > with manual-focus lenses adapted to the EOS lens mount. Hi Julian, Just to c

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-16 Thread Julian Loke
> "Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Page 52, at the top. ... Then, more ambiguously, it says, "In FA mode, > EC information is also added to the automatic focusing point selection > program for more precise automatic focusing point selection." Does this > perhaps mean that the camera will take yo

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-16 Thread Kim
> Perhaps I missed the part about ECF not functioning in green mode. > Which page is it on? Could this be a YAUF (Yet Another Undocumented > Featuer)? :-) Page 52, at the top. First it says "EC can be used in all picture-taking modes except Full Auto." Then, more ambiguously, it says, "In FA mode

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-16 Thread Thomas Bantel
Kim wrote: > >> The alternatives seem to be: >> 1) Use the centre cross-sensor only >> 2) Use a well-calibrated ECF >> 3) Use the keypad to manually select the sensor >> >> What do Elan 7 / EOS 33 / EOS 1v / EOS A2 users do? > > I use #2 most of the time, sometimes #3, rarely #1. > I use #1

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-16 Thread Julian Loke
> "Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ECF doesn't work in Green mode, according to the manual. What is > manual focus assist mode? Hi Kim, Perhaps I missed the part about ECF not functioning in green mode. Which page is it on? Could this be a YAUF (Yet Another Undocumented Featuer)? :-) Focus as

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-16 Thread Kim
> It is also strange that Green mode has features that are missing in the > "Creative" modes. Especially how after ECF has been used to select a > focus point, ALL the points that are in focus also light up, just like > in manual focus assist mode. ECF doesn't work in Green mode, according to th

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-16 Thread Kim
> The alternatives seem to be: > 1) Use the centre cross-sensor only > 2) Use a well-calibrated ECF > 3) Use the keypad to manually select the sensor > > What do Elan 7 / EOS 33 / EOS 1v / EOS A2 users do? I use #2 most of the time, sometimes #3, rarely #1. Lo, * *** *

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-16 Thread Ken Durling
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:50:59 -0400, you wrote: > Good question. In addition to the AF points lighting up the plane >> of focus, the most common reason is when I want to temporarily >> disable custom settings. E.g. MLU, 2nd curtain sync, FEC, FEB, >> or even just plain exposure bracketing. > >I se

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-16 Thread F. Craig Callahan
Julian Loke wrote: > > find "Green" mode best. ... I guess I'm a little perplexed as to > > why you'd want to give up so much control over your camera. :-) > > Good question. In addition to the AF points lighting up the plane > of focus, the most common reason is when I want to temporarily > d

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-15 Thread Jim Davis
> Good question. In addition to the AF points lighting up the plane > of focus, the most common reason is when I want to temporarily > disable custom settings. E.g. MLU, 2nd curtain sync, FEC, FEB, > or even just plain exposure bracketing. > > So, if I only want a single shot with AI Focus and Ev

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-15 Thread Julian Loke
> "F. Craig Callahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm (sincerely) curious about the kinds of situations where you > find "Green" mode best. ... I guess I'm a little perplexed as to > why you'd want to give up so much control over your camera. :-) Hi Craig, Good question. In addition to the AF

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-15 Thread Skip
Julian Loke wrote: > > > "Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > > Has anyone else had this happen? Would you consider this normal > > behavior for the AF system? Is it simply that as far as the camera > > is concerned, the center spot is the only one that can achieve focus? > > Hi Don, > > Th

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-15 Thread F. Craig Callahan
Julian Loke wrote: > Similaryly, I have also found there are other situations where there > is no good replacement for green mode on the Elan 7E. Unfortunately > green mode also lacks program shift and exposure compensation :-( Hi Julian, I'm (sincerely) curious about the kinds of situations

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-15 Thread F. Craig Callahan
Julian Loke wrote: > The alternatives seem to be: > 1) Use the centre cross-sensor only > 2) Use a well-calibrated ECF > 3) Use the keypad to manually select the sensor > > What do Elan 7 / EOS 33 / EOS 1v / EOS A2 users do? [And EOS 3!] I do (1) most of the time, (3) when it's useful (for ve

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-15 Thread Julian Loke
Hi Don, I thoroughly agree that cross-sensors are more desirable. Maybe even arranged like the Contax N1. http://www.contaxcameras.com It is also strange that Green mode has features that are missing in the "Creative" modes. Especially how after ECF has been used to select a focus point, ALL t

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-15 Thread Don
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:37:44 -0400, you wrote: >> "Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... >> Has anyone else had this happen? Would you consider this normal >> behavior for the AF system? Is it simply that as far as the camera >> is concerned, the center spot is the only one that can achieve focus

Re: EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-15 Thread Julian Loke
> "Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Has anyone else had this happen? Would you consider this normal > behavior for the AF system? Is it simply that as far as the camera > is concerned, the center spot is the only one that can achieve focus? Hi Don, The Area auto-AF on my Elan 7E is a bit

EOS Elan 7 "green" mode question

2001-04-14 Thread Don
When in the full auto mode (or when all sensors are active in another mode) and eye control turned off on the Elan 7, from what I gather from the manual, the camera will choose the closest focus that is under an AF sensor. Well, I find that mine doesn't always do this. It will pick the center se