Re: [equinox-dev] Plans to replace the Console with GoGo for Indigo

2010-12-02 Thread BJ Hargrave
If the plan is to replace the internal console with a bundle-supplied console (e.g. GoGo; and I think this is a fine plan), then I think the -console argument either needs to be deprecated (and now would be a great time to put people on notice) or we need to plan for the -console argument to ev

Re: [equinox-dev] Plans to replace the Console with GoGo for Indigo

2010-12-02 Thread Jeff McAffer
IMHO the bar for Indigo is pretty low. We need to make sure that Gogo can run properly on Equinox. All servicability extension work can be focused on using Gogo. Having a way to disable the current console would be interesting but not essential. Don't want the console? don't put -console on

Re: [equinox-dev] Plans to replace the Console with GoGo for Indigo

2010-12-02 Thread Thomas Watson
This is the kind of thing I want to address for 3.7 to enable the use of bundles on top of the framework to provide the console. Ideally this would involve a way to configure the framework so that the -console option just did what you need to get your bundles started as well as completely disablin

Re: [equinox-dev] Plans to replace the Console with GoGo for Indigo

2010-12-02 Thread Kirchev, Lazar
For the extraction of the console in a separate bundle there is a bug opened: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=169603 and a patch is provided there. One of the reasons for considering the moving of the console out of the framework is that adding new features to the console while it i

Re: [equinox-dev] Plans to replace the Console with GoGo for Indigo

2010-12-02 Thread Thomas Watson
We also must consider the amount of work it would take to extract the console out and test it properly. I am reluctant to do any of that work when we want to eventually replace the console implementation with the gogo shell and a bundle that bridges the old equinox command implementations to the

Re: [equinox-dev] Plans to replace the Console with GoGo for Indigo

2010-12-02 Thread Jeff McAffer
The disadvantage is usability. Right now you get equinox and run with -console and its all good. If we break it out you'll have to get two bundles and make sure that the console bundle is started... We have thought about shipping two setups, one with the console and one without. That might w

Re: [equinox-dev] shell refactoring proposal - Indigo plan deadline

2010-12-02 Thread Jeff McAffer
> I'm not sure how to deal with the gogo jars in orbit. The jars are real > bundles and we will not have to repackage them or anything like that. Jeff > what do you recommend? > Orbit is about maintaining bundles for third party code that eclipse projects use. We already have cases where the co