[Eug-lug] Fwd: Announcing the Ubuntu 5.10 release

2005-10-12 Thread Edward Craig
Thought you'd like to know...-- Forwarded message --From: Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Oct 12, 2005 9:10 PM Subject: Announcing the Ubuntu 5.10 releaseTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]The Ubuntu team is proud to announce Ubuntu 5.10. This is the official Ubuntu 5.10 release, and incl

Re: [Eug-lug] Compiling Windows Binaries within Linux

2005-10-12 Thread Martin Kelly
File says the following: hello.exe: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped Patrick R. Wade wrote: Martin Kelly wrote: Mingw looked promising, but I installed the Debian (Sarge) packages for it, an

Re: [Eug-lug] Compiling Windows Binaries within Linux

2005-10-12 Thread Patrick R. Wade
Martin Kelly wrote: Mingw looked promising, but I installed the Debian (Sarge) packages for it, and then built a program with gcc -o example.exe example.c -mwindows and it couldn't run as an exe, only as a Linux binary. Any idea what might be wrong? I've only used it once, under Windoze, but

Re: [Eug-lug] Compiling Windows Binaries within Linux

2005-10-12 Thread Martin Kelly
Mingw looked promising, but I installed the Debian (Sarge) packages for it, and then built a program with gcc -o example.exe example.c -mwindows and it couldn't run as an exe, only as a Linux binary. Any idea what might be wrong? Mike Cherba wrote: There are a couple of options: You could c

Re: [Eug-lug] Compiling Windows Binaries within Linux

2005-10-12 Thread Mike Cherba
There are a couple of options: You could compile using the cygwin tools under Windows. but I assume you mean that you have Only a linux box and you want to build a windows app on it to send to a friend. You might look into mingw ( http://www.mingw.org/ ) or there are also some howtos for buildin

Re: [Eug-lug] Borrow a cup of projector?

2005-10-12 Thread Hal Pomeranz
> Saw one at Costco for ~1k. Might be able to find one cheaper > elsewhere. According to pricewatch the cheapest come in at aroud $600. I think you can buy a used one on eBay for less. You should also be aware that the bulbs for these projectors are not cheap-- sometimes in excess of $200 depen

[Eug-lug] Compiling Windows Binaries within Linux

2005-10-12 Thread Martin Kelly
Does anyone know a way of compiling a Windows .exe using GCC? I know it's possible but I'm not sure how exactly, and it would be useful for distributing programs to friends who are not using Linux. Thanks :) -Martin ___ EUGLUG mailing list euglug@eugl

[Eug-lug] Open source alternatives to ACT?

2005-10-12 Thread Patrick R. Wade
So ; does anyone know an alternative to ACT? I'm looking particularly for a sort of contact-management tool for our HR folks to use to keep track of employees, and they're using ACT for this at the moment. -- Bullet points won't stop them... ___ EUGL

[Eug-lug] Corvallis High Tech After Hours

2005-10-12 Thread John Sechrest
Hello, Tomorrow night (thursday) 10/13 from 4:00pm to 8:00pm the SAO chapter of Corvallis , OSU College of Business, the BEC, and the Chamber are sponsoring an networking event for High Tech companies in Corvallis. If you want to visit with High Tech companies

Re: [Eug-lug] bad news for MySQL fans

2005-10-12 Thread Alan Crandall
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 08:04 pm, Mr O wrote: > It really depends if you're doing it with the right person. Then > you have a tasty treat afterwards. Err... > > --- Mike Cherba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hesitate to ask, but what exactly is wading through syrup > > like? It sounds fun. >

Re: [Eug-lug] bad news for MySQL fans/Java IDE

2005-10-12 Thread M. Bitner
One more vote for Eclipse. It is heavy but when you get used to it there's a lot of stuff it can do for you. Since it's designed to use plugins for feature extensions there are a lot of extra tools out there (both free and commercial) to extend the environment. _

Re: [Eug-lug] bad news for MySQL fans

2005-10-12 Thread Russ Johnson
Patrick R. Wade wrote: On the one hand, it will gratuitously alienate some Linux adopters that *have* been embracing and extending Linux behind closed doors (Google comes to mind) and inspire them to re-think the benefits of *BSD. On the other hand, it will add more fuel to the "viral license

Re: [Eug-lug] bad news for MySQL fans

2005-10-12 Thread larry price
On 10/12/05, Patrick R. Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bob Miller wrote: > > > GPL-3 does not appear to be a shitstorm to me. It looks like a fairly > > sensible response to the trend of keeping apps on one's own server > > farm. Some apps will become free (as in speech) when free subsystems >

Re: [Eug-lug] bad news for MySQL fans/Java IDE

2005-10-12 Thread Max Lemieux
Pretty much all the Java devs where I work use Eclipse, for what it's worth. When I ask questions about some part of the codebase, their first response is "do you have Eclipse installed?" It is a significant boon to working on Java projects, especially larger ones, for the reasons Ralph mentions

Re: [Eug-lug] bad news for MySQL fans

2005-10-12 Thread Patrick R. Wade
Bob Miller wrote: GPL-3 does not appear to be a shitstorm to me. It looks like a fairly sensible response to the trend of keeping apps on one's own server farm. Some apps will become free (as in speech) when free subsystems adopt GPL-3. Others will switch to proprietary alternatives, which wi

Re: [Eug-lug] bad news for MySQL fans

2005-10-12 Thread alan
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, Mr O wrote: > It really depends if you're doing it with the right person. Then > you have a tasty treat afterwards. Err... > > --- Mike Cherba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I hesitate to ask, but what exactly is wading through syrup > > like? It sounds fun. Not always

Re: [Eug-lug] bad news for MySQL fans/Java IDE

2005-10-12 Thread Rob Hudson
Ralph Zeller wrote: On 10/12/05 12am, larry price wrote: By the way, what's a good IDE to use with Java? My son is taking a beginning Java class, and he's using "eclipse" as a development interface. It seems pretty cumbersome, and so does "netbeans," but maybe that's just my perspective as a co

Re: [Eug-lug] Borrow a cup of projector?

2005-10-12 Thread Mike Cherba
Saw one at Costco for ~1k. Might be able to find one cheaper elsewhere. According to pricewatch the cheapest come in at aroud $600. -Mike On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 08:52, Matthew Jarvis wrote: > Bob Miller wrote: > > >We need to borrow a backup projector for this saturday's

Re: [Eug-lug] bad news for MySQL fans/Java IDE

2005-10-12 Thread Ralph Zeller
On 10/12/05 12am, larry price wrote: > for a more computer related one: > programming Java without an IDE It's hopeless, Larry. Whatever metaphor you use will distract us from your message. By the way, what's a good IDE to use with Java? My son is taking a beginning Java class, and he's using

Re: [Eug-lug] next meeting / Mandriva 2006

2005-10-12 Thread horst
Wow -- 2006 was just announced (see attached newsletter) Which member level/number of CDs or DVD do you have installed? I am interested in '2006 and would be happy to share expenses --if interested reply off list regarding finances. If not I'd still like to see the look&feel of the new installe

Re: [Eug-lug] Borrow a cup of projector?

2005-10-12 Thread Matthew Jarvis
Bob Miller wrote: We need to borrow a backup projector for this saturday's presentation. If you have access to one, can you look into checking it out? Max, Ben and Patrick, I'm looking at you. (good thing I've awakened my third eye. (-: ) Eventually EUGLUG probably ought to buy a projector o

[Eug-lug] Borrow a cup of projector?

2005-10-12 Thread Bob Miller
We need to borrow a backup projector for this saturday's presentation. If you have access to one, can you look into checking it out? Max, Ben and Patrick, I'm looking at you. (good thing I've awakened my third eye. (-: ) Eventually EUGLUG probably ought to buy a projector of our own. Any ideas

Re: [Eug-lug] My Coffee ?

2005-10-12 Thread Bob Miller
Jeff Newton wrote: > No, I wasn't going to ask about me making coffee with my own coffee guys - > was going to ask about that MY COFFEE place on West 11th Ave, has anyone > tried them yet and their WI-FI access? No, but I've spent a couple of quality afternoons at Early Rise on Coburg Rd. (just

Re: [Eug-lug] bad news for MySQL fans

2005-10-12 Thread larry price
maybe i should have used a different metaphor: Swimming through quicksand Typing with chopsticks something that would convey the mindless tedium and pointless syntactic obstacle course that is the glory of Transact-SQL for a more computer related one: programming Java without an IDE On 10/11/05,

Re: [Eug-lug] bad news for MySQL fans

2005-10-12 Thread Bob Miller
larry price wrote: > Oracle just purchased InnoBase which is the company from which MySqlAB > is licensing the code for transactions, triggers and other features of > a full RDBMS solution. I fail to see the problem. MySQL, including InnoDB, is GPL-2. Therefore, the current release is free and w