Re: [Eug-lug] Looking over the music portables...PlayForSure

2006-06-14 Thread Mr O
Answers to comments/questions: Rio supports Ogg on some players. My 20GB Rio Karma does Ogg just fine, there is unofficial support for mounting the filesystem in linux, and the base plugs into the network so you can use the java app to manage music. It was Sandisk that approached Rockbox. Not qui

Re: [Eug-lug] Thursday evening

2006-06-14 Thread larry price
We are due to meet at EWEB. We don't have a speaker lined up for the slot (we had some promising leads but all bailed) So if you've always had a hankering for stardom and can give a short presentation on a Linux related topic... Otherwise I'll give a slideshow and demonstrate features of Ubuntu

[Eug-lug] Thanks for the input on players

2006-06-14 Thread Brian Gallagher
That was fantastic response...gives me a lot of food for thought. I see that I am not the only one in this dilemma. I need to learn more about the audio book issue and I need to support the company that supports Linux. ___ EUGLUG mailing list euglug

Re: [Eug-lug] Looking over the music portables...PlayForSure

2006-06-14 Thread larry price
Which models besides the iRiver, support ogg playback? My pesonal take on music players is that they should come with a standard media slot, either usb key or SD/MMC; I've got a cheapjack player that fits into the lighter jack in my car that takes regular usb keys and I use that more than any of

Re: [Eug-lug] Looking over the music portables...PlayForSure

2006-06-14 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 11:36:53AM -0700, Ben Barrett wrote: > Boy, Joseph, you don't seem to have anything really good to say about any > players other than Apple's -- and I disagree. Not true, I said the iAudio has excellent recording, but I do not know at thing about its playback. ;) Creative

[Eug-lug] Thursday evening

2006-06-14 Thread Jim K
Are we meeting? CRRC or somewhere else? Jim K ___ EUGLUG mailing list euglug@euglug.org http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug

Re: [Eug-lug] Looking over the music portables...PlayForSure

2006-06-14 Thread Ben Barrett
Boy, Joseph, you don't seem to have anything really good to say about any players other than Apple's -- and I disagree.Now I don't try every model, nor have I owned very many MP3 players (less than 5), but I have NEVER had any problems with my Creative Labs player (are they just bad people, did the

Re: [Eug-lug] Looking over the music portables...PlayForSure

2006-06-14 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 08:40:52AM -0700, alan wrote: > "PlayForSure" is the Microsoft branded DRM. "PlaysForS%$%^" is more like > it. (It is a very troublesome bit of code to keep working, even if you do > use Microsoft products.) It also drains battery life on the device > because of the ext

Re: [Eug-lug] cron jobs not running

2006-06-14 Thread Bob Miller
Matthew Jarvis wrote: > checked the spew and all looks kosher i.e. output of 'bad' cron looks > identical to 'good' cron. Um... A job that didn't run prints the same thing as a job that did run??? What makes you think it didn't run? If I misunderstood you, then my bet's on ntpdate. You should

Re: [Eug-lug] cron jobs not running

2006-06-14 Thread Ben Barrett
For debugging, if you're having problems with mail delivery or the MAILTO (which can also be specified in the crontab), you could also tack on a pipe at the end of the crontab command, say like> /tmp/BadCron-LatestRun.log or| mail -s "output of last BadCron run"or whatnot :)    BenOn 6/14/06, Matth

Re: [Eug-lug] Looking over the music portables...PlayForSure

2006-06-14 Thread Bob Miller
Brian Gallagher wrote: > I'm looking over what's available at > http://tuxmobil.org/portable_players.html and I see the Creative Zen > Nano MP3, at $50 I could buy 2, but there's that PlayForSure! I take it > that is an oxymoron...care to elaborate? What software interface / > Distro did you

Re: [Eug-lug] cron jobs not running

2006-06-14 Thread Matthew Jarvis
Ben Barrett wrote: crontab mgt: Are you using "crontab -e"? You're not supposed to edit crontab 'on your own', but you can set your desired editor in your shell environment (vi is usually the default). debugging: Is there a mailto set? You can make a long cmd line (worse) or a wrapper scr

Re: [Eug-lug] cron jobs not running

2006-06-14 Thread Matthew Jarvis
larry price wrote: two possibilities, resource contention - something else is happening and the cron job fails before doing anything. synchronisation issues - your clock is so off and you are using ntpdate and every once in a while you skip over the correct time If it's the first you should be

Re: [Eug-lug] cron jobs not running

2006-06-14 Thread Ben Barrett
crontab mgt:  Are you using "crontab -e"?  You're not supposed to edit crontab 'on your own', but you can set your desired editor in your shell environment (vi is usually the default).debugging:  Is there a mailto set?  You can make a long cmd line (worse) or a wrapper script (better) which touches

Re: [Eug-lug] cron jobs not running

2006-06-14 Thread larry price
two possibilities, resource contention - something else is happening and the cron job fails before doing anything. synchronisation issues - your clock is so off and you are using ntpdate and every once in a while you skip over the correct time If it's the first you should be getting some spew i

RE: [Eug-lug] Looking over the music portables...PlayForSure

2006-06-14 Thread Jason LaPier
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of alan > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:41 AM > To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group > Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Looking over the music portables...PlayForSure > > On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Brian Gallagh

Re: [Eug-lug] Looking over the music portables...PlayForSure

2006-06-14 Thread Ben Barrett
I dont KnowForSure, but I've heard that some of these new devices have an override or "manual mode" which will play the normal, old-skool MP3's and such... this would shoot PFS in the foot but surely save the mfg a lot of support call time!! You could always take a linux laptop to the store, and Tr

[Eug-lug] cron jobs not running

2006-06-14 Thread Matthew Jarvis
This one is driving me a bit nuts There was a cron job in place before I got here that ran every day at a certain time. For some reason it stopped running. I looked at it and couldn't find anything wrong, changed the time it runs by 30 minutes, and it runs just fine. Changed back to the o

Re: [Eug-lug] Looking over the music portables...PlayForSure

2006-06-14 Thread alan
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Brian Gallagher wrote: I'm looking over what's available at http://tuxmobil.org/portable_players.html and I see the Creative Zen Nano MP3, at $50 I could buy 2, but there's that PlayForSure! I take it that is an oxymoron...care to elaborate? What software interface / Dis

[Eug-lug] Looking over the music portables...PlayForSure

2006-06-14 Thread Brian Gallagher
I'm looking over what's available at http://tuxmobil.org/portable_players.html and I see the Creative Zen Nano MP3, at $50 I could buy 2, but there's that PlayForSure! I take it that is an oxymoron...care to elaborate? What software interface / Distro did you use? __