[EVDL] EVLN: Owners Just Adore EVs = Why EVs Will Succeed

2014-03-06 Thread brucedp5
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1090615_heres-why-electric-cars-will-succeed-owners-just-adore-them Here's Why Electric Cars Will Succeed: Owners Just Adore Them By John Voelcker Feb 28, 2014 [image / George Parrott http://images.thecarconnection.com/lrg/2013-tesla-model-s-and-2011-chevrol

[EVDL] EVLN: Oregon's Stylish Pinot Plugin Tours

2014-03-06 Thread brucedp5
OR is even more nuts about bicycles, bicycle touring & commerce http://www.mnn.com/green-tech/transportation/blogs/plug-ins-pinot-oregons-stylish-electric-car-tours Plug-ins & Pinot: Oregon's stylish electric car tours Fri, Feb 28, 2014 [images http://www.mnn.com/sites/default/files/user/1301

Re: [EVDL] Lithium for the Price of Lead - Sort of

2014-03-06 Thread tomw
/...Using my AC-46 with a Curtis controller.../ Did you rename the "AC45" as "AC46"? Post from Brian of HPEVS on the diyelectriccar site: "You can find pictures of the motor and the dyno curves on our web site www.hpevs.com. Here you will find the original torque speed curve of the AC31 and the

[EVDL] LiOn for lead money

2014-03-06 Thread Electric Blue auto convertions
Buying something with NO back up, or support is like buying a Pizza thats already been eaten ... -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140306/69bf2b96/attachment.

Re: [EVDL] NiMH availablity ...

2014-03-06 Thread Sean Korb
It's 2014 now... a magic date for NiMH large format batteries. http://www.winonarenewableenergy.com/1/post/2012/04/ev-batteries-are-being-held-hostage.html Where are my cheap NiMH large format batteries? Any news now that the patents are expiring (expired?). Just curious. sean On Thu, Jul 25,

Re: [EVDL] NiMH availablity ...

2014-03-06 Thread Bruce EVangel Parmenter
Both the URL you referenced to below EV Batteries are being held hostage 04/11/2012 , and the URL of my post EVLN: Ford And Tesla Pushing Toyota To Adopt Li-ion Jul 20, 2013 are quite old. And a lot of information on NiMH is either old and or out of date, including the Wikipedia listing found

[EVDL] spielberg drives to work

2014-03-06 Thread K O
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Re: [EVDL] NiMH availablity ...

2014-03-06 Thread Cruisin
I have a 18kw Li-ion pack for $4000.00. You cant do better than that? -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Re-NiMH-availablity-tp4668269p4668273.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [EVDL] NiMH availablity ...

2014-03-06 Thread Sean Korb
Well drat. But it does look like Li-ion is getting incrementally cheaper with every passing day. A $10k loan to get started for a 75 mile pack/management/charger is still a barrier. I wish I could get the same rates as I could for a car loan but it's really hard to convince a bank that they could

Re: [EVDL] Lithium for the Price of Lead - Sort of

2014-03-06 Thread Cruisin
Have you ever seen one, or just running off of the mouth like Brian does. Brian has never seen one either. Too bad uneducated people want to tell others about something they know nothing about except what they have read from scammers and or the fraudulent forums and web sites. Educate yourself befo

Re: [EVDL] NiMH availablity ...

2014-03-06 Thread Sean Korb
I don't have regen on my GE forklift motor and Curtis controller so that sounds about right. I'd need 1.5 of those packs plus about $1000 in charger and BMS electronics. I have a 40 mile round trip commute and a 10 mile lunch/bank run but my car is very light so that only uses.. well about 18kwh.

Re: [EVDL] Spielberg drives his Tesla to work

2014-03-06 Thread Bruce EVangel Parmenter
[ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Billionaire-Spielberg-drives-his-Tesla-S-to-high-powered-lunch-tp4668246.html EVLN: Billionaire Spielberg drives his Tesla-S to high-powered lunch ] The above news piece mentions that of all the vehicles an ultra wealthy person

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 17, Issue 8

2014-03-06 Thread Ray Sexton
is a good thing! > - > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different... > > > > -- > > ___ > EV@lists.evdl.org > For general EVDL support, see http://evdl.org/help/ > http://l

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 17, Issue 8

2014-03-06 Thread Michael Ross
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Re: [EVDL] NiMH availablity ...

2014-03-06 Thread Marcus Reddish
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Re: [EVDL] NiMH availablity ...

2014-03-06 Thread Marcus Reddish
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[EVDL] Wiring+Diagram2.png 636×597 pixels

2014-03-06 Thread Ds2inc
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Re: [EVDL] NiMH availablity ...

2014-03-06 Thread Sean Korb
I think for many bottom balancing can be a real solution but it takes a special talent. I have an unreasonably heavy foot. I think even when I build a BMS I'll need to program it to cut out a bit early to save my pack from myself. I would need to identify and restrain the weaker battery at the f

Re: [EVDL] NiMH availablity ...

2014-03-06 Thread EVDL Administrator
True, lithium (even LiFePO4) beats NiMH for specific energy. However, I'm not yet sure that it can beat NiMH for cycle life. Look at the RAV4-EVs running around on their original NiMH batteries at 100k miles and more. Practically speaking, though, NiMH wasn't available when the EV world need

Re: [EVDL] NiMH availablity ...

2014-03-06 Thread Michael Ross
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Re: [EVDL] NiMH availablity ...

2014-03-06 Thread EVDL Administrator
On 6 Mar 2014 at 20:01, Michael Ross wrote: > Do you think if LiFePO4 are BB'd and limited to operating between 20% and > 80%, or 10% and 90% SOC that they will have degraded cycle life? I'm guessing that by "BB" you mean "bottom balanced." Yes? Sorry, I don't have the experience to answer this

Re: [EVDL] NiMH availablity ...

2014-03-06 Thread Lee Hart
Michael Ross wrote: Do you think if LiFePO4 are BB'd and limited to operating between 20% and 80%, or 10% and 90% SOC that they will have degraded cycle life? Lithium cells have been around for almost 20 years now. If you look, there are lots of examples that can tell us how long they lasted,