Re: [EVDL] Lead GC battery capacity

2015-07-28 Thread Roland via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Lead GC battery capacity

2015-07-28 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
> > You're comparing apples and oranges. > Well, Robert, how so? I presented three golf cart packs, > each offering about 100ah of usable capacity. Where did I go astray? The apples were 100 Ah comparisons. Then you changed to 40 Ah oranges, without going back and putting the apples on the sam

Re: [EVDL] Lead GC battery capacity

2015-07-28 Thread Willie2 via EV
On 07/28/2015 12:00 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: So the T105 is $150/(6v x 75a x 1.75hr) = $0.19/wh. The Sam's Club is $80/(6v x 75a x 1.75hr) = $0.10/wh. I didn't check SAMs' battery claims. I had assumed less capacity than T105s. I'm not sure what your "all or nothing" replacement means. You

Re: [EVDL] Lead GC battery capacity

2015-07-28 Thread Willie2 via EV
On 07/28/2015 07:41 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: You're comparing apples and oranges. Well, Robert, how so? I presented three golf cart packs, each offering about 100ah of usable capacity. Where did I go astray? - six T105s would be about $900. - 12 TS-LPF100s: about $1500 + $300 BMS -

Re: [EVDL] Lead GC battery capacity

2015-07-28 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Willie2 via EV wrote: Somewhat against my will, I just did some lead battery shopping. T105s are about $150. The "minutes at 75 amps" rating seems most appropriate. That would be just under 100 ah. From what you say, it appears those are usable amphours. SAMs batteries, with presumably less capac

Re: [EVDL] Lead GC battery capacity

2015-07-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 28 Jul 2015 at 6:30, Willie2 via EV wrote: > The longevity of ebike batteries is a BIG unknown here. One thing to watch out for is that (according to what I read on Endless Sphere) some of the really cheap Chinese bike batteries are made with "recycled" (used) laptop cells. I don't know h

Re: [EVDL] Lead GC battery capacity

2015-07-28 Thread Willie2 via EV
On 07/28/2015 06:30 AM, Willie2 wrote: Compare to 5 20ah ebike batteries @ $285. Total: $1425. Experience so far indicates as few as 2 20ah ebike batteries can be used at a cost of $570. Just checked Ping batteries, with an established good reputation: http://www.pingbattery.com/servlet/th

Re: [EVDL] Lead GC battery capacity

2015-07-28 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
You're comparing apples and oranges. - six T105s would be about $900. - 12 TS-LPF100s: about $1500 + $300 BMS - five 20ah ebike batteries @ $285. Total: $1425. - Experience... indicates two 20ah ebike batteries can do ($570.) Then also instead of six Trojans, 3 deep cycle 12v Lead batteries at

[EVDL] OT Uber EVs are e-delivering ice-cream on-demand to Singaporeans

2015-07-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: Zero to whoa > EcoCab e-cab company comes to Portland-OR

2015-07-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: CA-Assm Stone's AB604> allows e-skateboards in bike lanes

2015-07-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: How EVSE & Energy Storage Can Make Good Grid Partners (v)

2015-07-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Lead GC battery capacity

2015-07-28 Thread Willie2 via EV
On 07/27/2015 06:08 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: Willie2 via EV wrote: Thanks! Bottom line, take away: 50-90 ah on a fresh lead pack. It's not quite that bad. The Peukert effect does not change the ACTUAL capacity; it only describes the APPARENT capacity due to high currents. If you have a 200