Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation ?cleaner?

2018-12-28 Thread robert winfield via EV
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Re: [EVDL] fear of hydrogen infrastructure

2018-12-28 Thread robert winfield via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $50k flying EVs over San_Francisco-CA next year

2018-12-28 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
Or you can see what my father did - www.Airphibian.com (Sorry some of the links are outdated) One of the 5 manufactured (with FAA numbers) is in the National Air and Space Museum https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/fulton-airphibian-fa-3-101 notice the N number on the tail. As a child

Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation ?cleaner?

2018-12-28 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
hydrogen technology in > >> the last several years, there is something wrong with your sources) > >> - Mark > >> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > > > > -- > >Darryl McMahon > > Freelance Project Manager (sustainable systems) > > ___

Re: [EVDL] fear of hydrogen infrastructure

2018-12-28 Thread Gail Lucas via EV
Willie, The Las Vegas Water District had a hydrogen fuel cell project and you must know that aliens have already landed near us in Area 51. You may have inadvertently discerned the connection. On 12/27/2018 5:24 PM, Willie via EV wrote: Well..  I thought Mark had some positive comment

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $50k flying EVs over San_Francisco-CA next year

2018-12-28 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
There are some pretty significant restrictions on flying over urban areas. Requires a pilot's license, for one. You must be at least 1000' above inhabited areas and you must also fly in the appropriate airspace. If AI were far along to automate the entire flight, we'd see it in use for private

[EVDL] Oracle's Ellison is part of new Tesla board appointments

2018-12-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-tsla-new-board-members-oracle-founder-larry-ellison-elon-musk/ Tesla selects Oracle founder as new board member in “home run” appointment December 28, 2018 ... Tesla ... appointment of ... Larry Ellison and Walgreens ... Kathleen Wilson-Thompson as the newest

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $50k flying EVs over San_Francisco-CA next year

2018-12-28 Thread Rod Hower via EV
Who was elected in 2016? Case closed On ‎Friday‎, ‎December‎ ‎28‎, ‎2018‎ ‎09‎:‎42‎:‎14‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EST, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: Does anyone believe this nonsense? Al On 12/28/2018 6:26 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > >

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $50k flying EVs over San_Francisco-CA next year

2018-12-28 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Does anyone believe this nonsense? Al On 12/28/2018 6:26 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://www.timesofisrael.com/husband-and-wife-duo-sets-sights-on-flying-cars-over-san-francisco-next-year/ Husband-and-wife duo sets sights on flying cars over San Francisco next year 25 December 2018

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $50k flying EVs over San_Francisco-CA next year

2018-12-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 28 Dec 2018 at 17:26, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > A pair of wings comes out of the sides of your vehicle and you take off > for your destination. Not without filing a flight plan you don't. > their car won´t be "a toy for rich guys" and will be "accessible for > regular people," with a target

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $130k Porsche's (turbo-less) Taycan Turbo performance EV

2018-12-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 28 Dec 2018 at 17:06, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > oeturbo is vocabulary used for internal combustion engine > vehicles. It's also been used in other contexts, to the point where its original meaning is nearly lost. My computers used to have "turbo" buttons on them, for example. So I don't

Re: [EVDL] fear of hydrogen infrastructure

2018-12-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 28 Dec 2018 at 1:49, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > So, wasting untold millions in developing a new answer which is *proven* to be > much worse deal all around, is silly and a boondoggle. I have no clue how you > can't see that... "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when

[EVDL] EVLN: Behind The Certified-Tesla-Repair-Center Scenes

2018-12-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://insideevs.com/tesla-certified-repair-center-behind-the-scenes/ We Go Behind-The-Scenes At A Certified Tesla Repair Center DEC 22 2018 Kay Talley,Guest [images https://d2t6ms4cjod3h9.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/tesla-repair.jpg

[EVDL] EVLN: $50k flying EVs over San_Francisco-CA next year

2018-12-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://www.timesofisrael.com/husband-and-wife-duo-sets-sights-on-flying-cars-over-san-francisco-next-year/ Husband-and-wife duo sets sights on flying cars over San Francisco next year 25 December 2018 Federico Maccioni [image

[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20181229

2018-12-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-electrameccanica-com-EV-orders-41k-Tofino-roadsters-23k-SOLO-tp4692355.html EVLN: electrameccanica.com EV orders> 41k Tofino roadsters &23k SOLO Electra Meccanica says it received over 41,000 orders for all-electric Tofino

[EVDL] using ice terms ... (turbo-less) Taycan Turbo performance EV

2018-12-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
% By using ice terms to sell EVs = VW is misinforming (lying to) the public: https://www.google.com/search?q=define+turbo tur·bo /?t?rb?/ noun: turbo; plural noun: turbos short for turbocharger. a motor vehicle equipped with a turbocharger https://www.google.com/search?q=define+turbocharger

[EVDL] EVLN: $130k Porsche's (turbo-less) Taycan Turbo performance EV

2018-12-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/27/porsches-top-of-the-line-ev-to-get-the-turbo-name-and-a-13-plus-price-tag/ Porsche’s top-of-the-line EV to get the Turbo name and a $130,000-plus price tag 2018-12-27 Kirsten Korosec [image

[EVDL] EVLN: electrameccanica.com EV orders> 41k Tofino roadsters &23k SOLO

2018-12-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://electrek.co/2018/12/20/electra-meccanica-electric-tofino-roadster-solo-ev-reservations/ Electra Meccanica says it received over 41,000 orders for all-electric Tofino roadster and 23,000 SOLO EVs Dec. 20th 2018 Fred Lambert [image

Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation ?cleaner?

2018-12-28 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Hi Darryl, Thanks for your comments. To say that I’m thrilled about the amount of renewable and zero emission integration in Ontario would be a gross understatement. I grew up not far from Ontario and spent great summers exploring northern Ontario wilderness. I know that part of the solution

Re: [EVDL] OT: Keeping hydrogen for transportation ?cleaner?

2018-12-28 Thread Darryl McMahon via EV
Hello Mark and all, as expected, I'm tardy with a response, and I see the discussion has moved on, and as already noted, shows why hydrogen is typically OT for this list. I'm not prepared to debate the merits of hydrogen as a fuel or energy store here. I had those debates from the late

Re: [EVDL] fear of hydrogen infrastructure

2018-12-28 Thread Willie via EV
On 12/28/18 3:49 AM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: Without subsidies and a nearby H2 filling station, you would not be driving fuel cell vehicles. And besides, nobody claims H2 does not work. Pardon me, Cor. I should have said "work competitively". On Dec 27, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Willie

Re: [EVDL] fear of hydrogen infrastructure

2018-12-28 Thread Peter Eckhoff via EV
S a citation. > >>>> > >>>> ___ > >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > >>>> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > >>>> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDR

Re: [EVDL] fear of hydrogen infrastructure

2018-12-28 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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