Re: [EVDL] tesla in trouble with "full self driving" marketing

2021-03-11 Thread Haudy Kazemi via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Vicor 200W 12V booster modules, 100-200V input

2021-03-11 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Lee, Correct, tough I only have the Booster modules, meaning that they need the master's logic to regulate but there can be many parallel Boosters, this can be used to make kiloWatt converters if needed. See the user manual at: http://www.vicorpower.com/documents/applications_manual/200VIJ00_Sect_0

Re: [EVDL] tesla in trouble with "full self driving" marketing

2021-03-11 Thread Mr. Sharkey via EV
> pay a cabbie $25 per trip to take you on local > errands twice a week for 20 years ... but you still wouldn't get to drive an exciting, cutting edge EV, aaannnddd... the cabbie probably drives an old ICE beater with bedbugs in the upholstery. Ask me whose driving I have more confidence in, t

Re: [EVDL] tesla in trouble with "full self driving" marketing

2021-03-11 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Just a few reasons you won't see autonomous vehicles anytime soon. .. “there are circumstances and events to which the system is not capable of recognizing or responding. These include static objects and road debris, emergency vehicles, construction zones, large uncontrolled intersections with

Re: [EVDL] tesla in trouble with "full self driving" marketing

2021-03-11 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
This doesn't apply to everyone - it depends on where you live - but if you're in a moderately populated area, for the $50k you'd pay for a Tesla 3 (I'm assuming $40k for the car and another $10k for the alleged self-driving option), you could pay a cabbie $25 per trip to take you on local errand

Re: [EVDL] tesla in trouble with "full self driving" marketing

2021-03-11 Thread Ed Blackmond via EV
A friend of mine has a model X. It opens the door for her when she walks up to the car. Ed > On Mar 11, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Gail Lucas via EV wrote: > > Yes, Willie, but some of us would need an open the car door and help us in > option too. I would not hesitate to trust the system as it won't

Re: [EVDL] Vicor 200W 12V booster modules, 100-200V input

2021-03-11 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Cor van de Water via EV wrote: I see discussion about using an AC to DC power supply as a 12V source from the main pack. Alternative is to use real DC/DC converters intended for this purpose. I have a tray full of Vicor VI-B51-02 which are booster modules of the VI-2xx type, see the datasheet wit

Re: [EVDL] tesla in trouble with "full self driving" marketing

2021-03-11 Thread Gail Lucas via EV
Yes, Willie, but some of us would need an open the car door and help us in option too. I would not hesitate to trust the system as it won't be eating, drinking, talking on the phone, putting on makeup, or on its way after spending a few hours in a bar, as are many folks driving in my area. You

[EVDL] Vicor 200W 12V booster modules, 100-200V input

2021-03-11 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
I see discussion about using an AC to DC power supply as a 12V source from the main pack. Alternative is to use real DC/DC converters intended for this purpose. I have a tray full of Vicor VI-B51-02 which are booster modules of the VI-2xx type, see the datasheet with the model number decoder and th

Re: [EVDL] tesla in trouble with "full self driving" marketing

2021-03-11 Thread Willie via EV
On 3/11/21 2:17 PM, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote: > Tesla lawyers recently admitted the $10,000 option that Tesla > sells as Full Self-Driving Capability is not, in fact, capable of full > self-driving. I still don't get the fascination with self-driving cars. If I was going to cough up the a

Re: [EVDL] tesla in trouble with "full self driving" marketing

2021-03-11 Thread Willie via EV
On 3/11/21 10:36 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: https://www.seattletimes.com/business/tesla-touts-self-driving-to-consumers-to-the-dmv-it-tells-a-different-tale/ Musk has reasons to promote Full Self-Driving. The $10,000 option is a balm to Tesla’s revenues and profits, although just how muc

Re: [EVDL] tesla in trouble with "full self driving" marketing

2021-03-11 Thread Mr. Sharkey via EV
> Tesla lawyers recently admitted the $10,000 option that Tesla > sells as Full Self-Driving Capability is not, in fact, capable of full > self-driving. I still don't get the fascination with self-driving cars. If I was going to cough up the asking price for the pinnacle of automotive technolog

Re: [EVDL] tesla in trouble with "full self driving" marketing

2021-03-11 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 11 Mar 2021 at 16:36, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Tesla lawyers recently admitted the $10,000 option that Tesla > sells as Full Self-Driving Capability is not, in fact, capable of full > self-driving. Good grief. Completely apart from the outright deception here - ten thousand dollars! I

[EVDL] tesla in trouble with "full self driving" marketing

2021-03-11 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
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