Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chinese EVs are headed for the US

2023-05-25 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 25 May 2023 at 13:29, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > [The affordable EV] part of the market is being ignored; and is > precisely the one that I suspect the Chinese will come to dominate. Thanks to Lawrence for reminding me to look at the NCAP safety rankings. I noticed that of the top 20 cars, si

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 127, Issue 14

2023-05-25 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 25 May 2023 at 9:51, Tim Economu via EV wrote: > it's for the road trips, and the Tesla network makes that possible, > unlike every other charging network out there. It's impossible to make a road trip in a non-Tesla EV? Really? We unwashed masses still have to use a mobile phone to find

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chinese EVs are headed for the US

2023-05-25 Thread Danny Ames via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chinese EVs are headed for the US

2023-05-25 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
Their new factory being build in Mexico will be using a new manufacturing technique that looks like it will significantly reduce the cost to build the car.  This is planned to be a lower-cost Tesla, and will be produced in very large quantities. On 5/25/2023 12:29 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chinese EVs are headed for the US

2023-05-25 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 127, Issue 15

2023-05-25 Thread Tim Economu via EV
ong distances, there isn't any appeal for a long-range EV or supercharging. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20230525/daf52033/attachment.htm> _

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chinese EVs are headed for the US

2023-05-25 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
I think the direction of Tesla's future is quite unknown. Musk is about as unpredictable as you can imagine. Further, just because they have pursued the luxury market doesn't imply that's their long term trajectory. Now that they have their manufacturing process well established, they very well

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chinese EVs are headed for the US

2023-05-25 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Willie via EV wrote: Tesla seems right on the verge of offering a ~$25k car. Experience has taught me to *never* believe anything that the automakers *say* they are going to do. Only believe what they have *actually done. In addition, ALL Tesla models are being groomed for lower cost producti

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 127, Issue 14

2023-05-25 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Tim Economu via EV wrote: I too live in rural American, and my statement still stands. We do road trips of 6k-10k every year, and definitely NOT on the interstates. The Tesla supercharging network doesn't require you be on the major routes... It all depends on where you live and drive, Tim. Te

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chinese EVs are headed for the US

2023-05-25 Thread Willie via EV
Danny Ames via EV wrote: I disagree that Tesla is about to lose its crown... Tesla is not going to lose its lead anytime, soon if ever. I suspect the future lies somewhere between these two extremes. Tesla isn't going to go away any time soon; but they are likely to remain in the performanc

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chinese EVs are headed for the US

2023-05-25 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EV List Lackey via EV wrote: Say goodbye to the US car market as we know it: Cheap Chinese EVs are coming. Danny Ames via EV wrote: I disagree that Tesla is about to lose its crown... Tesla is not going to lose its lead anytime, soon if ever. I suspect the future lies somewhere between thes

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 127, Issue 14

2023-05-25 Thread Tim Economu via EV
It is nice to have the variety. It will even be nicer when the car makers get together with some companies that can provide charging solutions, like the auto companies did with big oil early on. Right now the non-Telsa public charging infrastructure in the US is in early days, and is not a very

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 127, Issue 14

2023-05-25 Thread Tim Economu via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chinese EVs are headed for the US

2023-05-25 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 25 May 2023 at 7:39, Danny Ames via EV wrote: > Tesla today is the worlds only Exxon Chevron BP Petroleum Mobil oil for > EV car recharging. Except that you can fill up any ICEV at any BP or Chevron or Mobil or Exxon station, if you can stomach trading with those disreputable companies. :-(

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla's reputation takes a hit

2023-05-25 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 25 May 2023 at 0:47, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > Tesla Model Y is the highest-scoring car tested by Euro NCAP since 2020 Interesting. Congrats to Tesla! Even more interesting to me is the upcoming Smart #1, which landed a few NCAP places lower but is significantly more agile at 11" sho

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla's reputation takes a hit

2023-05-25 Thread paul dove via EV
e to reality. People are slow to catch on. Lawrence Rhodes -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20230525/a884050f/attachment.htm> ___ Address mess

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chinese EVs are headed for the US

2023-05-25 Thread Danny Ames via EV
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