Re: [EVDL] Cybertruck

Someone would have to pay me a lot of money to force me to buy a cyber truck. Some people really like them, but to me they look stupid. Bobby Keeland Arnaudville, Louisiana On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 9:48 PM Rod Hower via EV wrote: > I'll keep my 2023 Mach E, that thing is an ugly mon

Re: [EVDL] Cybertruck

I'll keep my 2023 Mach E, that thing is an ugly monstrosity!    On Friday, October 4, 2024 at 10:22:43 PM EDT, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: Anybody interested in priority delivery of a Cybertruck? Apparently my reservation in the queue has come due, so I am entitled to use pri

Re: [EVDL] Cybertruck

On 10/4/2024 7:22 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: Anybody interested in priority delivery of a Cybertruck? Apparently my reservation in the queue has come due, so I am entitled to use priority delivery, but will likely not use it - anybody interested? Quite possibly - IF they've st

Re: [EVDL] Cybertruck

Yup, just got my notice today. Passing on it, our MY LR is fine. Gary Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 4, 2024, at 10:22 PM, Cor van de Water via EV > wrote: > > Anybody interested in priority delivery of a Cybertruck? > Apparently my reservation in the queue has come due, so I a

[EVDL] Cybertruck

Anybody interested in priority delivery of a Cybertruck? Apparently my reservation in the queue has come due, so I am entitled to use priority delivery, but will likely not use it - anybody interested? Cor. ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No oth

Re: [EVDL] Open EVSE options

Yes, I'd love a chance to have access to the guts (at least the main board). On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 10:03 AM fred via EV wrote: > Thanks to Phil for the link to a set of keys for the JuiceBox I was > previously unable to remove from the wall. The keys arrived late last night > an

[EVDL] Open EVSE options

Thanks to Phil for the link to a set of keys for the JuiceBox I was previously unable to remove from the wall. The keys arrived late last night and I had to try it out. Slid right in, so that fear is vanquished. Also, many thanks to the other folks who provided the OpenEVSE suggestions. I have

Re: [EVDL] JuiceBox apps to lose all "smart" features (Oct 11th)?

Ouch! We have 2 units at our condo community, and I believe we're using the commercial version. Maybe tear out the brains and put in stuff from OpenEVSE? Steve Gaarder Burlington, VT On Wed, 2 Oct 2024, Jay Summet via EV wrote: Enel North America is shutting down effective Oct 11t

Re: [EVDL] Enel X Way (JuiceBox chargers) closes down

boxes :) https://youtu.be/kKcJk4SwyYw Don't Buy These Charging Stations! (Or How One Cool Product Became a Nightmare To Use!) youtu.be I have the hardware sitting on my desk - and plan to actually make the next stage of the video very shortly! Nikki. > On Oct 2, 2024, at 1:29 PM, fred

Re: [EVDL] JuiceBox apps to lose all "smart" features (Oct 11th)?

x27;m sure that they'd go for a fix to get them back to being 'smart'. Best, Rush Dougherty TucsonEV > -Original Message- > From: EV On Behalf Of (-Phil-) via EV > Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2024 10:12 AM > To: Jay Summet > Cc: (-Phil-) ; Electric Ve

Re: [EVDL] Enel X Way (JuiceBox chargers) closes down

alike with a common Southco cam lock, so this key should fit: https://amzn.to/4etXmMU On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 1:29 PM fred via EV wrote: > I have a pair of JuiceBox chargers that are inoperative. One is the old > silver cube, so long passed that I can't remember what features it had wh

Re: [EVDL] Enel X Way (JuiceBox chargers) closes down

I have a pair of JuiceBox chargers that are inoperative. One is the old silver cube, so long passed that I can't remember what features it had when it worked. The second is a bit "prettier" but also non-working and worse yet, I can't find the key that locks it to the wall. I had intended to ship

Re: [EVDL] JuiceBox apps to lose all "smart" features (Oct 11th)?

then it will never depend on the cloud. On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 1:14 PM Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > While the JuiceBox powers up, it runs its local web server, which > allows you to log in with a mobile device and configure it, to point > it to a server address, amon

Re: [EVDL] JuiceBox apps to lose all "smart" features (Oct 11th)?

While the JuiceBox powers up, it runs its local web server, which allows you to log in with a mobile device and configure it, to point it to a server address, among other things. On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 10:13 AM (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > > Yeah, depending on what hardware they use, iit

Re: [EVDL] JuiceBox apps to lose all "smart" features (Oct 11th)?

ese,or I'd take a look. If anyone > > has one laying around they don't need, LMK! > > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 9:26 AM Jay Summet via EV > <mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org>> wrote: > > > > Enel North America is shutting down effective Oct 11th and wi

Re: [EVDL] JuiceBox apps to lose all "smart" features (Oct 11th)?

ions.   I don't have one of these,or I'd take a look.  If anyone has one laying around they don't need, LMK! On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 9:26 AM Jay Summet via EV <mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org>> wrote: Enel North America is shutting down effective Oct 11th and will be removin

Re: [EVDL] JuiceBox apps to lose all "smart" features (Oct 11th)?

It should be possible to hack the firmware and point them to a new server, maybe one local to the owner, or one can be setup and run for donations. I don't have one of these,or I'd take a look. If anyone has one laying around they don't need, LMK! On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 9:26 AM Ja

[EVDL] JuiceBox apps to lose all "smart" features (Oct 11th)?

Enel North America is shutting down effective Oct 11th and will be removing the Juicebox / X Way app from the app stores. They state: "Residential charging hardware (JuiceBox) will maintain the physical operating ability to charge vehicles." [But they don't say that their servers will remain

Re: [EVDL] CCS to J3400(Nacs) Tesla adapters communication protocol

ir vehicles. Even now, most of the new GM vehicles only support 150kw charging. GM is making affordable EVs but I still don't think their hearts are really in it. On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 8:47 AM EV List Lackey via EV wrote: > On 25 Sep 2024 at 18:11, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > > >

[EVDL] MCE Sync - Smart grid charging

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Re: [EVDL] CCS to J3400(Nacs) Tesla adapters communication protocol

On 25 Sep 2024 at 18:11, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > Bolt [DC fast charging] is around 50kW Is that a limitation of the Bolt's battery? Or something else? Many recent EU EVs can typically charge at 150-350kW, but quite a few older EVs are limited to the same, around 50kW. I've

Re: [EVDL] CCS to J3400(Nacs) Tesla adapters communication protocol

On 25 Sep 2024 at 20:37, Mark E. Hanson via EV wrote: > It would be nice to get all EV's universally fast charging I suppose that's why Europe specifies CCS2 as a universal standard. Any EV sold (maybe not grey market) in the EU within the last several years can use any EU c

Re: [EVDL] CCS to J3400(NACS) Tesla adapters communication protocol

tocol due to European requirements. Newer Teslas sold in the US speak CCS but use the NACS connector. Older Teslas need a hardware upgrade to use newer Tesla superchargers. CCS cars, even with an adapter, cannot use older Tesla superchargers as those don't use CCS protocols. -Original Me

Re: [EVDL] CCS to J3400(Nacs) Tesla adapters communication protocol

If you want an adapter get the Tesla-made adapter from GM, You can order one here, use a phone browser (doesn't seem to work on desktop/laptop): https://accessories.chevrolet.com/product/nacs-dc-adapter-85806539 Your 2021 Model Y should have a PLC modem, so it can CCS with an adapter. You can veri

[EVDL] CCS to J3400(Nacs) Tesla adapters communication protocol

word is that some GM cars will not support this, so I don't know if they will open it up for these cars or not. On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 1:39 PM Mike Chancey via EV mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: Tesla switched to the CCS communication protocol due to European requiremen

Re: [EVDL] Ccs to J3400(Nacs) Tesla adapters communication protocol

to restrict CCS charging for 3rd parties, but word is that some GM cars will not support this, so I don't know if they will open it up for these cars or not. On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 1:39 PM Mike Chancey via EV wrote: > Tesla switched to the CCS communication protocol due to European > requi

[EVDL] CCS to J3400(NACS) Tesla adapters communication protocol

r Tesla superchargers. CCS cars, even with an adapter, cannot use older Tesla superchargers as those don't use CCS protocols. -Original Message- From: EV On Behalf Of Mark Hanson via EV Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 3:29 PM To: Electric List Cc: Mark Hanson Subject: [EVDL] C

Re: [EVDL] Ccs to J3400(Nacs) Tesla adapters communication protocol

don't use CCS protocols. -Original Message- From: EV On Behalf Of Mark Hanson via EV Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 3:29 PM To: Electric List Cc: Mark Hanson Subject: [EVDL] Ccs to J3400(Nacs) Tesla adapters communication protocol Hi Folks Isn’t a Tesla communication pro

[EVDL] Ccs to J3400(Nacs) Tesla adapters communication protocol

Hi Folks Isn’t a Tesla communication protocol adapter needed to operate your non-Tesla EV (like my Bolt) with the HVDC CCS to J3400(Nacs) physical adapter ? I don’t see how the adapter would work without a GM agreement with Tesla to translate the data to GMs CCS fast charging protocol. Simila

Re: [EVDL] Failure Modes and Effects Analysis -FMEA of DCFC CCS<->J3400(NACS) adapters

CFC standards, so all that's needed is for >> the adapter manufacturers to look at the standard and implement it safely, >> it's simple to understand if you are an Electrical Engineer, but they chose >> to design something unsafe instead. >> >> On Tue, Sep 24,

Re: [EVDL] Failure Modes and Effects Analysis -FMEA of DCFC CCS<->J3400(NACS) adapters

ed is for the adapter manufacturers to look at the standard and implement it safely, it's simple to understand if you are an Electrical Engineer, but they chose to design something unsafe instead. On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 11:17 AM Ron via EV wrote: > Most of this discussion is either o

Re: [EVDL] Failure Modes and Effects Analysis -FMEA of DCFC CCS<->J3400(NACS) adapters

d non-destrucive way before the cord end and cable ends reach their limits. On September 23, 2024 5:57:04 p.m. CST, "(-Phil-) via EV" wrote: >I have personally tested a number of CCS DCFCs, and NONE of them >de-energize fast enough to avoid arcing when Pilot and/or Proximity is &

Re: [EVDL] Failure Modes and Effects Analysis -FMEA of DCFC CCS<->J3400(NACS) adapters

Thank you both. I appreciate the multiple perspectives. Best, Jack ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/

Re: [EVDL] Failure Modes and Effects Analysis -FMEA of DCFC CCS<->J3400(NACS) adapters

On Mon, 23 Sep 2024, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: Yes, there are lots of people buying these crappy Lectron and A2Z adapters which I deem dangerous. I'm glad there is some movement to develop standards. I'm one of the people who bought a Lectron adapter (although other than testing I

Re: [EVDL] Use PFC power supply as DC/DC

;s the case, it should be OK to try up to that rating. YMMV. On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 7:52 PM Alan Arrison via EV wrote: > I have heard some rumors that an active PFC power supply can be used as > a DC/DC converter in an EV. > > However, a typical 96S NCA pack can swing from over 400V

[EVDL] Use PFC power supply as DC/DC

I have heard some rumors that an active PFC power supply can be used as a DC/DC converter in an EV. However, a typical 96S NCA pack can swing from over 400V to under 300v. Can the buck converter portion of the power supply handle that wide swing? Can't use the input to the boost converter as t

Re: [EVDL] Failure Modes and Effects Analysis -FMEA of DCFC CCS<->J3400(NACS) adapters

fault current! On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 4:45 PM Bill Dube via EV wrote: > I should note that the connector is designed so that the pilot wire > (communication wire) is the very first to disconnect. If the regulation > is followed correctly, this should automatically de-energize the entire >

Re: [EVDL] Failure Modes and Effects Analysis -FMEA of DCFC CCS<->J3400(NACS) adapters

e the live conductors before they become exposed. The mandatory requirement for a locking connector should be dropped, or at least made optional. >>>> Soap box mode OFF <<< 🙂 Bill D. On 9/24/2024 10:53 AM, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: I have discussed this here before, but

Re: [EVDL] Failure Modes and Effects Analysis -FMEA of DCFC CCS<->J3400(NACS) adapters

I have discussed this here before, but neither the Lectron or the A2Z have a proper mechanical interlock, meaning you can literally rip out the NACS cable while HV is still present, which could result in an arc flashover between the terminals with full pack voltage. This could generate over a thou

Re: [EVDL] Failure Modes and Effects Analysis -FMEA of DCFC CCS<->J3400(NACS) adapters

Yes, there are lots of people buying these crappy Lectron and A2Z adapters which I deem dangerous. I'm glad there is some movement to develop standards. Thanks for posting this, Rush! On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 5:45 AM Rush via EV wrote: > Hi all, > > > > Marco Gaxiola

[EVDL] Test message - ignore

Just testing. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = I really hate this darn machine

[EVDL] Failure Modes and Effects Analysis -FMEA of DCFC CCS<->J3400(NACS) adapters

Hi all, Marco Gaxiola sent me a link to a report done by the ChargeX Consortium "Recommended ACTIONS TO IMPROVE ADAPTER SAFETY" that he and several others have written (Marco said he was the main participant). It discusses the safety issues of the DCFS CCS/NACS adapters and has recommenda

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

My EVSE didn't die. My wife didn't plug in all the way until the J1772 adapter clicked into place...sheesh. At least I now have all the parts to make an adapter.  Lawrence  -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

Re: [EVDL] 2012 leaf large 12 volt battery

irectly or from the battery pack. On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 8:49 PM redscooter via EV wrote: > > I thinking of having extra batteries in the 12 volt system so I can > have extra capacity to run 12 volt inveter with out using traction > battery. I have like an other 300 amps hours 12

[EVDL] charging 24kw battery out car.

I have the very low soc battery out of the car and want to charge it as the whole pack to kept it for capity. someone sent somthing about using a diode and resitor devider. they said i'd have to be care full not letting power go back into the grid, I have an off grid invertor to stop the pr

[EVDL] 2012 leaf large 12 volt battery

I thinking of having extra batteries in the 12 volt system so I can have extra capacity to run 12 volt inveter with out using traction battery. I have like an other 300 amps hours 12 volt to have the car charge while normally charging. but will car the stop charging the 12 volt adtional b

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Where electrons have defeated gasoline

Cryptocurrency and NFTs could probably charge EV's worldwide!  Not sure what they actually do other than waste energy and create fake money? On Tuesday, September 17, 2024 at 09:34:50 PM EDT, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: In Norway, registered EVs now outnumber registered gas

[EVDL] EVLN: Where electrons have defeated gasoline

In Norway, registered EVs now outnumber registered gasoline ICEVs. That's the good news. The bad news is that Diesels still outnumber both. But with 90% of new vehicle sales now EVs, Diesel days are numbered. Full story: https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20240917-electric-cars-overtake-pe

Re: [EVDL] Upcoming Electric Boat Events

it does include the cell housing. But it doesn't matter as the densities are so great. Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message ------ From: "Ron via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "

Re: [EVDL] Upcoming Electric Boat Events

lling to push the battery that hard. On September 15, 2024 7:57:17 p.m. CST, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: >Hi Folks >Has anyone experienced an electric speed boat that can pull skiers for several >hours before recharging? Or is it made of Unobtanium. When I electrified my >www.eval

Re: [EVDL] Upcoming Electric Boat Events

require a less weighty battery pack. Bill D  On 9/16/2024 1:57 PM, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: Hi Folks Has anyone experienced an electric speed boat that can pull skiers for several hours before recharging? Or is it made of Unobtanium. When I electrified my www.evalbum.com/2749 E Cat max

[EVDL] Upcoming Electric Boat Events

Hi Folks Has anyone experienced an electric speed boat that can pull skiers for several hours before recharging? Or is it made of Unobtanium. When I electrified my www.evalbum.com/2749 E Cat max speed was 7mph on a displacement hull for 30 miles with 48V 10Kwh LiFePo4 Caleb batteries about 10

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

V.com > -Original Message- > From: EV On Behalf Of Dave Davidson via EV > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 9:39 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Cc: Dave Davidson ; Lawrence Rhodes > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral? > > The

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

can cause issues. On Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 10:31 PM Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > The trusting wife to analyze an electrical or any technical problem is > useless and you wind up chasing your tail. I will make an adapter and check > to see if the EVSE is really broken. On all the normal

Re: [EVDL] 2013 Tesla charger failure mode: anybody insight?

how to get control of the setting in the EVSE and can change it to 24A when plugging into a 30A circuit like now. Most times I am charging with my Leaf, so there is no urgency to get this solved. Hope this clarifies, Cor. On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 1:26 PM EV List Lackey via EV wrote: > > On 1

Re: [EVDL] 2013 Tesla charger failure mode: anybody insight?

On 13 Sep 2024 at 12:56, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > You shouldn't be pulling more than 20A on #12 anyway For sure, and that only for short periods. Continuous loads shouldn't exceed 16 amps (80% of maximum). Not to be too preachy here, but if you really have AWG 12, your wiri

Re: [EVDL] 2013 Tesla charger failure mode: anybody insight?

eptable voltage drop even at only 20A. (about 17% even at only 20A!) Attempting to pull 30A is way outside of NEC limits! (30A would be 25% loss!!!) On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 12:44 PM Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Maybe in interesting tidbit for Phil: > My Tesla (2013 S with dual charger)

Re: [EVDL] 2013 Tesla charger failure mode: anybody insight?

if you can >>> > do board-level repair due to their mechanical design. I suggest just >>> > ordering a used one for a couple hundred $. >>> > >>> > If you wanted to save buying one, you could convert the existing slave to >>> > a ma

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

The trusting wife to analyze an electrical or any technical problem is useless and you wind up chasing your tail. I will make an adapter and check to see if the EVSE is really broken. On all the normal family stuff she is very good.  Lawrence Rhodes -- next part -- An HT

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

age- > From: EV On Behalf Of (-Phil-) via EV > Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 10:25 AM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Cc: (-Phil-) ; Lawrence Rhodes > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral? > > Code-wise, You can't have an outlet (ada

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

uestion is - since the Tesla 14-50 >> Plug has no wire connected to the neutral pin, is it code acceptable? >> >> Best, >> >> Rush Dougherty >> TucsonEV >> www.TucsonEV.com >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: EV On Behal

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

since the Tesla 14-50 > Plug has no wire connected to the neutral pin, is it code acceptable? > > Best, > > Rush Dougherty > TucsonEV > www.TucsonEV.com > > > -Original Message- > > From: EV On Behalf Of (-Phil-) via EV > > Sent: Monday, Sep

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

t, the UMC will not function. On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 6:31 AM EV List Lackey via EV wrote: > On 9 Sep 2024 at 6:33, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > > > My Think EVSE finally died, after a decade of use... > > Very sorry to hear of your loss. > > > If I can trust my

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

On 9 Sep 2024 at 6:33, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > My Think EVSE finally died, after a decade of use... Very sorry to hear of your loss. > If I can trust my wife. If you can't, you - and she - have more problems than a dead EVSE, and I don't think that this li

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

s not as well known. I made an extension cord for my mobile charger. My wall outlet only had 3 wires (2 hots & ground). I connected them up and did not connect anything to the neutral. It worked fine. Mike > On 09/09/2024 12:44 AM MDT Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > > >

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

NEMA 14-50 plug to draw up to 40A. But there may be adapters for a 30A circuit that will program it to draw only 24A. I have not used my mobile charger so long that I don't remember other than a NEMA 5-15 and 14-50 plug. On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 11:34 PM Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > >

[EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

It's been a while since I have needed to make an adapter for my EVSE. My Think EVSE finally died, after a decade of use...If I can trust my wife. There is an L-30 twist lock. I need to adapt it to 14-30 to accommodate the Tesla EVSE. I saw one diagram that simply didn't connect the neutral. Two

[EVDL] EVLN: EVs 94% of Norway sales

In August, 94% of the cars sold in Norway were EVs. For the year to date, it's 87%. When a nation's goverment actually WANTS its people driving EVs, they implement policies that make it happen. It probably helps that Norway has no craven, hidebound ICEV manufacturers to whine and wail about

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

Rush wrote: > The J1772 Spec from the 2017 SAE Standard states - > > Table 9 - AC charging electrical ratings (North America) > AC Level 2 208 to 240 V AC, 1-phase ≤ 80 A Per NEC 625 > > So your 245VAC may not be safe for some EV's Rush, isn't this the nominal voltage? Voltage ratings usually incl

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

to deliver either 220V -6%/+10% (207-242) or for the former 240V countries, 240V -10%/+6% which is 216-254 so that if you produced equipment for 230V +/-10% then it would work everywhere: that range works out to 207-253V On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 3:28 AM Jay Summet via EV wrote: > > I have a

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

:28 AM Jay Summet via EV wrote: > > I have a solar system on my house, and have seen my "240" volt circuit > jump as high as 245 when the solar system is adding 10 kw flowing back > into the grid, never had an issue charging my Nissan Leaf at that > slightly over spec r

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

limits are 230V + 10% or - 6% (253.3V-216.2V). Jay On 9/4/24 01:23, Rush via EV wrote: The J1772 Spec from the 2017 SAE Standard states - Table 9 - AC charging electrical ratings (North America) AC Level 2 208 to 240 V AC, 1-phase ≤ 80 A Per NEC 625 So your 245VAC may not be safe for some

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

- > From: EV On Behalf Of Cor van de Water via EV > Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2024 6:24 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Cc: Cor van de Water > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla > > So, best to use a little step-down transformer on your TeslaT

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

PM (-Phil-) wrote: > > > > Yes, I personally witnessed this happen at a Casino in Reno. Many Tesla > > destination chargers are wired to 277VAC. > > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 5:31 PM Cor van de Water via EV > > wrote: > >> > >> The only c

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 5:55 PM (-Phil-) wrote: > > Yes, I personally witnessed this happen at a Casino in Reno. Many Tesla > destination chargers are wired to 277VAC. > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 5:31 PM Cor van de Water via EV > wrote: >> >> The only concern I would

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

Yes, I personally witnessed this happen at a Casino in Reno. Many Tesla destination chargers are wired to 277VAC. On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 5:31 PM Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > The only concern I would have with using a TeslaTap on an unknown > destination charger is that you a

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

n may use a commercial site's 277V parking lot lighting connection to wire up a destination charger, making it very dangerous for any non-Tesla EV to plug in... On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 2:15 PM Rush via EV wrote: > > There are currently lots of versions of the 'teslatap'. It

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

h Dougherty TucsonEV www.TucsonEV.com > -Original Message- > From: EV On Behalf Of Lawrence Rhodes via EV > Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2024 8:37 AM > To: ev@lists.evdl.org > Cc: Lawrence Rhodes > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla > > I have used a Tesl

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

They are using the ISO15118 "plug-n-charge" protocol which uses TLS certificates, so if your vehicle does not have those certs, you can't supercharge. On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 7:38 AM Ken Olum via EV wrote: > How does the system used by Ford and Rivian work? The article dis

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

I have used a TeslaTap at destination chargers for years, on a Leaf. Lawrence Rhodes -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: __

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

How does the system used by Ford and Rivian work? The article discusses "software coordination with Tesla". With an actual Tesla, you just plug in, the car satisfies the charger that it should be charged, and billing communication is handled by the car. With magic dock, you can charge any CCS ca

[EVDL] List downtime

Because of server maintenance, the EV list will be unavailable for a few hours on Thursday 5 September. I can't predict exactly when or how long. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.or

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Improving lithium cycle life

wers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "EV List Lackey via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "EV List Lackey" Sent: 02-Sep-24 05:03:10 Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: Improving lithium cycle life Researchers from the SLAC-Stanford Battery Center (formerly S

[EVDL] EVLN: Improving lithium cycle life

> Researchers from the SLAC-Stanford Battery Center (formerly Stanford > Linear Accelerator Center) said that charging lithium-ion batteries > for the very first time at unusually high [rates] extends their > lifespan by an average of 50% and up to a maximum of 70%. Full story: https://insideev

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla kills "master plan"?

On 2 Sep 2024 at 1:04, Rod Hower via EV wrote: > Forbes wants you to pay to view the article.  Maybe paste the text here. Sorry. Odd, I didn't hit a paywall here. Oh well. - Elon Musk´s 2006 Climate Manifesto For Tesla Is Gone From Its Website The "Secret Master Plan

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

27;s cheaper to drive the Mach E on electric.  I will drive the Insight on the bad winter days in NE Ohio since it's all aluminum and still looks new at 24 years old, need to keep the Mach E nice. On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 04:24:55 PM EDT, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: I r

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla kills "master plan"?

Forbes wants you to pay to view the article.  Maybe paste the text here. On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 09:45:03 AM EDT, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: Apparently it was junked in a purge of old blog posts. There is some implication in the story that the purge may have been done, at

[EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

I read in this NY Times article https://archive.ph/1yLYu that supplies of NACS adapters are short, and that > Some Ford and Rivian owners have gotten tired of waiting and bought > adapters from other suppliers whose products are not endorsed by > automakers. Their experience suggests that acces

[EVDL] EVLN: Tesla kills "master plan"?

Apparently it was junked in a purge of old blog posts. There is some implication in the story that the purge may have been done, at least in part, to hide potential evidence from investigations into Tesla's autonomy software. The posts are also unavailable in the Internet Archive. Do you t

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

On 27 Aug 2024 at 12:56, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > It seems automakers just don't think you won't use your car at least once a > week! We don't always, and I don't think we're that unusual. We're retired, and we live in a highly walkable town. We have e-bi

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

It seems automakers just don't think you won't use your car at least once a week! On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 8:57 AM Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Wow. I've had a dead battery so many times because one of the many > interior lights were left on. (They're hard to notice

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

; -- Original Message -- From: "Lee Hart via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Lee Hart" Sent: 26-Aug-24 22:41:08 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw Both vehicles will turn off the headlights (or radio or dome light etc.) if left on

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

Both vehicles will turn off the headlights (or radio or dome light etc.) if left on for more than ~15 minutes. But... both had 12v accessory outlets that remained *on* when the car was off. Leaving a cellphone charger or other gadget plugged into them *would* run the battery down. Or, just leav

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

So, if you leave the lights on and drain the battery, you need to have it towed to a dealer ? There must be another piece to the story. Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "Lee Hart via EV" To: "

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

Phil wrote: > If you are going to routinely leave any car, EV or not, parked without > attention for more than 2 weeks routinely, I advise a 12v battery switch > be installed on the negative lead. That's good advice, with one caveat. Some cars have standard-equipment anti-theft systems that must

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

battery disconnected and the HV pack off, it will be OK for at least a year. On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 10:51 AM Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > First of all, charging and discharging the batteries in the middle of > their range hardly affects the life of the batteries at all. > If for some r

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

, otherwise the fuse is no longer bolted down, but the wire will pull directly on the fuse itself, which is a failure waiting to happen. Sigh, why does Tesla want to re-invent everything? Cor. On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 7:46 AM Ken Olum via EV wrote: > >From: "(-Phil-)" >Date:

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

From: "(-Phil-)" Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:53:48 -0700 What model? If it's an older S/X then unfortunately they don't have the hardware to sleep fully. Yes, it is a 2015 Model S, so that explains it. If it's plugged in, then it will take it from the wall when SoC drops a bit

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

What model? If it's an older S/X then unfortunately they don't have the hardware to sleep fully. If it's plugged in, then it will take it from the wall when SoC drops a bit. On Sun, Aug 25, 2024 at 4:19 PM Ken Olum via EV wrote: > Thanks, Phil! > >From: "

[EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

Thanks, Phil! From: "(-Phil-)" Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2024 16:30:58 -0700 Teslas will use a lot of power if you leave sentry mode running, but without that, it should sleep and not use much range. Sentry keeps the contactors closed 24/7 and sucks down about 200W. That is about 5kWh/

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