Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of

ul Compton via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Paul Compton" Sent: 10-Nov-22 03:34:31 Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of Lead Acid batteries are 95% recyclable. Lead Acid batteries are 95% recycled. These are two very different stateme

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of

Lead Acid batteries are 95% recyclable. Lead Acid batteries are 95% recycled. These are two very different statements, but very many people lack the reading or comprehension skills to understand the difference. -- Paul Compton www.paulcompton.co.uk (YouTube channel)

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of

On 31 Oct 2022 at 11:50, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > In developed countries, I think most lead-acid batteries are being > recycled safely ... The situation was different in the past, and still > is in some third world countries today. There are unfortunately some third world and lawless nations

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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of

On 10/30/2022 3:15 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: Don’t forget that recycling of lead acid batteries contaminates the communities around them, creating major health problems to those near them and downwind. Given that millions of lead-acid batteries are retired every year, it's not

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of

It was my understanding that Texaco bought the patents, shelved them, and retain them. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 30, 2022, at 8:51 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: > > Don’t forget that recycling of lead acid batteries contaminates the > communities around them, creating major health

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Mark can you substantiate that statement? Thanks, Dan Dan 520-834-4176 I10 and Twin Peaks On 10/30/2022 3:15 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: Don’t forget that recycling of lead acid batteries contaminates the communities around them, creating major health problems to those near

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of

There are many varieties of Li Ion to choose from. At this point in time, Li Ion appears to be the primary secondary, so to speak, battery choice. :-) Lead acid, much like other legacy technologies, will take some time to fade into the background. It is simply a matter of time. Lead acid

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of

Don’t forget that recycling of lead acid batteries contaminates the communities around them, creating major health problems to those near them and downwind. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Oct 30, 2022, at 1:56 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > > Peri Hartman wrote: >>>

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of

Peri Hartman wrote: There's been a move back to LiFePo because it doesn't use cobalt. What else can be done? EV List Lackey wrote: Nickel metal hydride? There are actually lots of rechargeable battery technologies that could be used. Each has different strengths and weaknesses. It's

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of

ey" Sent: 29-Oct-22 17:37:06 Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of On 29 Oct 2022 at 20:57, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: There's been a move back to LiFePo because it doesn't use cobalt. What else can be done ? Nickel metal hydride? NiMH has significantly lower

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of

On 29 Oct 2022 at 20:57, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > There's been a move back to LiFePo because it doesn't use cobalt. What > else can be done ? Nickel metal hydride? NiMH has significantly lower specific energy than lithium, but reliability and cycle life are outstanding and well proven.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of

--- Original Message -- From: "John Lussmyer via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "John Lussmyer" Sent: 29-Oct-22 13:07:56 Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of It may not matter. EV's are hitting the exponential growth curve, and ICE vehicles are hitti

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of

It may not matter.  EV's are hitting the exponential growth curve, and ICE vehicles are hitting the reverse exponential curve. EV's will continue to get less expensive as volume production increases, and new lower-end models come out. ICE vehicle manufacturers are already making very slim

[EVDL] EVLN: EU agrees on 2035 ICEV ban, sort of

A 2035 ban was agreed on in principle in June but with some resistance. As of Friday they seem to have mostly worked things out. The upshot is that vehicles have to show 50-55% carbon reduction by 2030 and zero carbon by 2035, with boutique / luxury automakers given only an extra year.