Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Musk walked-back on PV roof option> too small a surface

2018-12-09 Thread Larry Gales via EV
In my analysis of the Stella vehicles, I assume that the 1.5 kW PV array delivers the overall performance of a 0.9 kW array (60%) mounted on the roof of a house. But the most important aspects of the Stella vehicles are their low weight (830 lbs.) and extremely low CD (0.16?). They claim 400

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Musk walked-back on PV roof option> too small a surface

2018-12-09 Thread paul dove via EV
Because it is a hassle to get it out of the trunk. The other option is to leave it in the garage but then you are on the road without it. If you can afford a model 3 or up the you can afford a $500 evse for the wall. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2018, at 11:12 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Musk walked-back on PV roof option> too small a surface

2018-12-09 Thread Willie via EV
On 12/9/18 11:12 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: From my understanding, the Tesla 3 comes with a portable EVSE than can plug into a 14-50 receptacle. So depending on the reaction from others in your household :-), that's a possible option for those occasional times that you need more

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Musk walked-back on PV roof option> too small a surface

2018-12-09 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 9 Dec 2018 at 7:40, Willie via EV wrote: > Using Tesla supplied 120vac equipment, which will not do more than 12 > amps, a Model 3 charges at about 5mph on a "pretty good" 120vac outlet. > Teslas will reduce current draw if there is much voltage drop. So the > stated 200 miles in 8 hours seems

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Musk walked-back on PV roof option> too small a surface

2018-12-09 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
-- From: "Larry Gales via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Larry Gales" Sent: 08-Dec-18 11:20:41 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Musk walked-back on PV roof option> too small a surface Why has no one mentioned the obvious: the Stella Lux and St

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Musk walked-back on PV roof option> too small a surface

2018-12-09 Thread Willie via EV
On 12/9/18 7:12 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: On 9 Dec 2018 at 3:30, paul dove via EV wrote: (Eight hours of charging TeslaTMs Model 3 from a wall socket will give you your expected 200-plus miles of range.) Someone's math is off. You can only get 1KW/h from a wall socket. Maybe

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Musk walked-back on PV roof option> too small a surface

2018-12-09 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 9 Dec 2018 at 3:30, paul dove via EV wrote: > (Eight hours of charging TeslaTMs Model 3 from a wall socket will give > you your expected 200-plus miles of range.) Someone's math is off. You > can only get 1KW/h from a wall socket. Maybe 30 miles in 8 hours. > This statement isn't quite

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Musk walked-back on PV roof option> too small a surface

2018-12-08 Thread Larry Gales via EV
Why has no one mentioned the obvious: the Stella Lux and Stella Vie which achieve practical solar power because they are extremely lightweight and sport a 1.2 to 1.5 solar PV. The Dutch team that has produced these street legal vehicles (4-5 passengers, top speed of 77 mph) is also working on a

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Musk walked-back on PV roof option> too small a surface

2018-12-08 Thread paul dove via EV
(Eight hours of charging Tesla’s Model 3 from a wall socket will give you your expected 200-plus miles of range.) Someone's math is off. You can only get 1KW/h from a wall socket. Maybe 30 miles in 8 hours. On Saturday, December 8, 2018, 8:05:15 PM CST, brucedp5 via EV wrote:

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Musk walked-back on PV roof option> too small a surface

2018-12-08 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Finally someone sets it straight regarding solar panels on car roofs. On 12/8/2018 9:05 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: https://qz.com/1482588/why-teslas-dont-and-cant-have-solar-roofs/ Why Teslas don’t—and can’t—have solar roofs December 3, 2018 Kabir Chibber [images

[EVDL] EVLN: Musk walked-back on PV roof option> too small a surface

2018-12-08 Thread brucedp5 via EV
https://qz.com/1482588/why-teslas-dont-and-cant-have-solar-roofs/ Why Teslas don’t—and can’t—have solar roofs December 3, 2018 Kabir Chibber [images https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/RTX1A0WZ.jpg The only solar-powered cars that work