Re: [EVDL] Fast Charging... (Flywheel?)

2018-02-09 Thread Haudy Kazemi via EV
Tesla does load balancing and load limiting at its superchargers. Although most of their stations are rated at 120, 135, or 145 kW, they usually deliver less based on these factors: -utility ordered power limits. Drivers see this when their low SoC cars start out with high kW and in under a min

Re: [EVDL] Fast Charging... (Flywheel?)

2018-02-09 Thread Lee Hart via EV
robert winfield via EV wrote: There are a few technical problems with flywheel energy storage and moving vehicles... Robert is right. A flywheel in a vehicle has to be gimballed (like a gyroscope) so it can remain upright no matter how the car moves. Its bearing also have to be strong enough

Re: [EVDL] Fast Charging... (Flywheel?)

2018-02-09 Thread robert winfield via EV
There are a few technical problems with flywheel energy storage and moving vehicles.There is a term called "precession"It's why a gyroscope stands up when spinning and doesn't fall over. If you push it over it resists and pushes back.If you force it over it goes in a different direction. It "wan

Re: [EVDL] Fast Charging... (Flywheel?)

2018-02-09 Thread Paul Compton via EV
As I recall, there was a company that had produced a commercial 30kWh flywheel storage system. Ideal for peak load shaving, voltage/frequency stabilisation, and buying off peak to use during the day etc. Cycle life was essentially infinite with the rotor spinning on magnetic bearings in an evacuate

Re: [EVDL] Fast Charging... (Flywheel?)

2018-02-08 Thread Dan Kegel via EV
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > I wonder how big a flywheel is needed to store the energy to charge a 250 > mile range in 20 minutes? > Since it is fixed, and does not have to be in a vehicle, it might be the > answer to large charging stations. > > When ten TESLAs

Re: [EVDL] Fast Charging... (Flywheel?)

2018-02-07 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
lto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Peri Hartman via EV > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 4:43 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Cc: Peri Hartman > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Fast Charging... (Flywheel?) > > Interesting thought. It might be a good alternative. > > Bu

Re: [EVDL] Fast Charging... (Flywheel?)

2018-02-07 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
, it comes down to which costs less. Again, I'm pretty sure battery technology will usurp anything mechanical. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Robert Bruninga via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Robert Bruninga" Sent: 07-Fe

[EVDL] Fast Charging... (Flywheel?)

2018-02-07 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1115199_what-electric-car-charging-will-satisfy-a-mass-market-twitter-poll-results I wonder how big a flywheel is needed to store the energy to charge a 250 mile range in 20 minutes? Since it is fixed, and does not have to be in a vehicle, it might be the answe