Re: [EVDL] My EV trike pickup space was occupied by a car. Fun with Volt packs

2021-03-06 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote: > Consider: You are going to use your lithiums until they die Actually, I'm hoping for the reverse, that my battery packs last longer than I do. Sharkey, I sure *hope* you outlive your batteries! Lee -- There is a computer disease that anybody who works with

Re: [EVDL] My EV trike pickup space was occupied by a car. Fun with Volt packs

2021-03-06 Thread Mr. Sharkey via EV
> Consider: You are going to use your lithiums until they die Actually, I'm hoping for the reverse, that my battery packs last longer than I do. Sponsored by

Re: [EVDL] My EV trike pickup space was occupied by a car. Fun with Volt packs

2021-03-06 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Simple question. Confirm? 1) There is a BMS module on each battery block. 2) Even if not connected to the BMS comm cable the minimum BMS chip across each cell does provide a very small amount of overvotage cell balancing if a cell starts to move above a crticical voltage. 3) It can NOT actively

Re: [EVDL] My EV trike pickup space was occupied by a car. Fun with Volt packs

2021-03-06 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Alan Arrison wrote: You've heard it before, but here it is again. Proceed without a BMS at your own peril. Best case, you ruin some expensive cells. Worst case, you burn your house down. I agree completely. Running lithiums without a BMS is like running your house wiring without circuit

Re: [EVDL] My EV trike pickup space was occupied by a car. Fun with Volt packs

2021-03-06 Thread Dan Baker via EV
Words to live by Alan. Hence the ask what BMS folks are using with Volt packs. So far the majority I have heard is no BMS. And I have seen lots of folks use a less than great BMS, it malfunction, drain and kill the pack. The Orion and Dilithium kits look like good quality but would likely cost

Re: [EVDL] My EV trike pickup space was occupied by a car. Fun with Volt packs

2021-03-05 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
You've heard it before, but here it is again. Proceed without a BMS at your own peril. Best case, you ruin some expensive cells. Worst case, you burn your house down. Al On 3/5/2021 9:31 AM, Dan Baker via EV wrote: Thanks Jerry for your practical use of parallel pack info using Volt batts!

Re: [EVDL] My EV trike pickup space was occupied by a car. Fun with Volt packs

2021-03-05 Thread Dan Baker via EV
Awesome, fantastic info Jerry! yes glad again you are ok too and too bad about EV- hard to put a price on a one of a kind EV, like a lost art piece :-( Yes I am looking at running an AC setup - the Hyper9 X144 setup looks impressive. I am currently running a Motoenergy ME1003 on a 96V DC setup

Re: [EVDL] My EV trike pickup space was occupied by a car. Fun with Volt packs

2021-03-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 Mar 2021 at 12:04, jerry freedomev via EV wrote: > Hi All,Tuesday I was slowing for a light and a compact  hit me at  at 50mph > from the rear in my 700lb EV trike pickup Bummer, what lousy luck. Sorry to hear that the trike was wrecked, but glad that you're OK. I hope that you can

Re: [EVDL] My EV trike pickup space was occupied by a car. Fun with Volt packs

2021-03-05 Thread jerry freedomev via EV
Hi Dan and All,Volt modules are very forgiving, robust assuming you stay within voltage, temp specs.  A major advantage is not having the cost, hassle of a BMS which can increase cost 50-100%.In the trike I just paralleled the 48vdc sections in the 4kwh module and fused each section/string in

Re: [EVDL] My EV trike pickup space was occupied by a car. Fun with Volt packs

2021-03-05 Thread jerry freedomev via EV
Hi All,Tuesday I was slowing for a light and a compact  hit me at  at 50mph from the rear in my 700lb EV trike pickup and unlike the one 20 yrs ago in my E woody which only took $40 to put back on the road, the trike was totaled.Again good engineering using my rear tires as a crash load

Re: [EVDL] My EV trike pickup space was occupied by a car. Fun with Volt packs

2021-03-05 Thread Dan Baker via EV
Thanks Jerry for your practical use of parallel pack info using Volt batts! Bummer on the trike - glad you are ok! Did you just use a fixed charge connected to all the packs , no diodes or contactors? It seems more ppl are using Volt packs without any BMS than those that use one. I'm going to