Re: [EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-25 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
If it's an "Energy Star" fridge then its not likely to be a simple timer. More likely it is some kind of algorythm that makes calculations based on how often and how long the door is open, possibly even taking into account humidity, etc. Might also be some kind of frost sensor. ​​​ I know on

Re: [EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-23 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
I debunked this almost a year ago. The "Engineer" in question is a software engineer, NOT an EE. Here's the 3rd time I've posted links to my videos where I explain why V2G or AC export is not possible in ANY Tesla: On 3/22/21 8:26 PM, (-Phil-) wrote: > I've already covered this subject extensive

Re: [EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-23 Thread paul dove via EV
Engineer finds Tesla Model 3 is secretly equipped with hardware for powering homes  | | | | || | | | | | [Updated] Engineer finds Tesla Model 3 is secretly equipped with hardware for powering homes By Matthew Beedham Despite not being that keen on the idea, Tesl

Re: [EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-23 Thread Haudy Kazemi via EV
If you're a little bit handy, you can hack a fridge/freezer defrost heater to gain manual control over it. Then you can force it off to keep peak loads down, or force it on to address heavy icing that the normal defrost cycle isn't able to handle. (Either because normal defrost is insufficient, or

Re: [EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-23 Thread Mr. Sharkey via EV
> the "energy-star" design will NOT let the > defrost come on when power is restored Curiously, with the somewhat-ancient Kenmore refer here, that's the ~first~ thing it does after a power interruption, run a defrost cycle. I have to remember yank the cord out of the wall before I transfer my

Re: [EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-23 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
Sorry, no it's not. I already have debunked this BS claim about a year ago: On 3/22/21 8:26 PM, (-Phil-) wrote: > I've already covered this subject extensively in several YouTube videos: > https://youtu.be/lXokJEzXwaI > https://youtu.be/UkRk2OQI7RE On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 12:55 PM Peter VanDerW

Re: [EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-23 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
Yes, it's technically possible to extract HV DC from the charge port in a Tesla. You then need an external inverter to make AC. I personally have done this on 2 occasions with my Tesla for emergency power outages, but otherwise I don't think it's useful. You definitely wouldn't want to do it on

Re: [EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-23 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
When the refer defrost strip-heater kicks in and my house is on the 1.5 kW inverter, it drops the load and we go dark. But then simply cycling power restores is because the drop of power resets the "energy-star" design will NOT let the defrost come on when power is restored, so you probably get an

Re: [EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-23 Thread Jim Walls via EV
On 03/23/2021 12:55, Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote: Not counting the oven, dryer, or EV charging, my house does not use more than ~3kw. If I actively manage my loads I can keep it down below 1.5kw. Boy, I wish.  My minimum load is close to 2.5 KW.  I am really looking forward to my older son

Re: [EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-23 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
> From: Robert Bruninga mailto:bruni...@usna.edu>> > > I measured my home under grid-down conditions and found that > my entiere house with LED lights, and the refrigerator draw only about 700 > to 800 watts under emergency conditions… How do you heat your water? Jan -- next part --

Re: [EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-23 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
Well, apparently the Tesla's onboard level-2 charger is (theoretically) capable of bidirectional capability. So V2G/V2H might just require a software upgrade. Musk has stated that the Cybertrucks will have onboard AC outlets, possibly even 240V outlets capable of powering a small house, or perh

Re: [EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-23 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 23 Mar 2021 at 8:04, Willie via EV wrote: > I had not previously considered VW to be a real contender against Tesla > in the EV market. Before their "Power Day" announcement, I would not > have considered a buying a VW. Now, I am reconsidering. Here in the US we trail Europe quite a bit for

Re: [EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-23 Thread Willie via EV
On 3/23/21 11:02 AM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: On 3/23/21 9:04 AM, Willie via EV wrote:   People have claimed that it would not be possible to get DC power out of the charge connector on a Tesla.  I'm skeptical.  Will you offer an opinion? Since Tesla's support DC fast charging, it means

Re: [EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-23 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
I really wanted to experiment with the DC power connector for V-2-G or V-to-home till I measured my home under grid-down conditions and found that my entiere house with LED lights, and the refrigerator draw only about 700 to 800 watts under emergency conditions and so I now have simple 1500W invere

Re: [EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-23 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 3/23/21 9:04 AM, Willie via EV wrote:   People have claimed that it would not be possible to get DC power out of the charge connector on a Tesla.  I'm skeptical.  Will you offer an opinion? Since Tesla's support DC fast charging, it means they have the capability to connect the battery

Re: [EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-23 Thread Willie via EV
On 3/22/21 8:26 PM, (-Phil-) wrote: I've already covered this subject extensively in several YouTube videos: https://youtu.be/lXokJEzXwaI https://youtu.be/UkRk2OQI7RE Thanks, I was mostly unaware of the interest in the subject. I can not pretend to fully comprehend your conclusions but I ac

Re: [EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-22 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
I've already covered this subject extensively in several YouTube videos: https://youtu.be/lXokJEzXwaI https://youtu.be/UkRk2OQI7RE Tesla specifically will void your warranty if you use your car for this. The battery chemistry is not optimized for it, and excepting for emergencies, it just doesn't

[EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-22 Thread Willie via EV
Perhaps Phil would be willing to comment on the possibility of a rapid and surprise introduction of V2G/V2H on Tesla cars? That is, is there any reason the charge port should not be bidirectional? Is it possible that a grid/island inverter is built in so that AC power could be supplied throug