It isn't just charging spots. In some areas, apartments turn outdoor,
uncovered parking spaces into line item add-ons that can easily be over
$100/month.
On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, 10:07 Peter VanDerWal via EV
wrote:
> For appartment dwellers this would also eliminate the need for an EV
> charging
For appartment dwellers this would also eliminate the need for an EV charging
spot.
This is actually becoming the norm in many big cities. Fewer and fewer people
are driving anymore. With decent public transportation and cabs/uber/lyft it
is now significantly cheaper (for many people) to NOT
Those caveats pretty much sum up my daily driving experience in Northern
Virginia.
-Steve
> On Mar 12, 2021, at 1:15 AM, Haudy Kazemi via EV wrote:
>
> Cost is a factor but it alone does not always win the day. After all, if
> up-front and operating costs were the only winning factors, we
Cost is a factor but it alone does not always win the day. After all, if
up-front and operating costs were the only winning factors, we might all be
driving heavily depreciated Gen 2 Priuses (with catalytic converter
shields), with 200k miles on the odometer.
Many of us value the various benefits
> pay a cabbie $25 per trip to take you on local
> errands twice a week for 20 years
... but you still wouldn't get to drive an exciting, cutting edge EV,
aaannnddd... the cabbie probably drives an old ICE beater with
bedbugs in the upholstery. Ask me whose driving I have more
confidence in,
Just a few reasons you won't see autonomous vehicles anytime soon.
..
“there are circumstances and events to which the system is not capable
of recognizing or responding. These include static objects and road
debris, emergency vehicles, construction zones, large uncontrolled
intersections
This doesn't apply to everyone - it depends on where you live - but if
you're in a moderately populated area, for the $50k you'd pay for a Tesla 3
(I'm assuming $40k for the car and another $10k for the alleged self-driving
option), you could pay a cabbie $25 per trip to take you on local
A friend of mine has a model X. It opens the door for her when she walks up to
the car.
Ed
> On Mar 11, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Gail Lucas via EV wrote:
>
> Yes, Willie, but some of us would need an open the car door and help us in
> option too. I would not hesitate to trust the system as it
Yes, Willie, but some of us would need an open the car door and help us
in option too. I would not hesitate to trust the system as it won't be
eating, drinking, talking on the phone, putting on makeup, or on its way
after spending a few hours in a bar, as are many folks driving in my
area. You
On 3/11/21 2:17 PM, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote:
> Tesla lawyers recently admitted the $10,000 option that Tesla
> sells as Full Self-Driving Capability is not, in fact, capable of full
> self-driving.
I still don't get the fascination with self-driving cars. If I was going
to cough up the
On 3/11/21 10:36 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/tesla-touts-self-driving-to-consumers-to-the-dmv-it-tells-a-different-tale/
Musk has reasons to promote Full Self-Driving. The $10,000 option is a
balm to Tesla’s revenues and profits, although just how
> Tesla lawyers recently admitted the $10,000 option that Tesla
> sells as Full Self-Driving Capability is not, in fact, capable of full
> self-driving.
I still don't get the fascination with self-driving cars. If I was
going to cough up the asking price for the pinnacle of automotive
On 11 Mar 2021 at 16:36, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> Tesla lawyers recently admitted the $10,000 option that Tesla
> sells as Full Self-Driving Capability is not, in fact, capable of full
> self-driving.
Good grief. Completely apart from the outright deception here - ten
thousand dollars!
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/tesla-touts-self-driving-to-consumers-to-the-dmv-it-tells-a-different-tale/
...
In official correspondence with California’s Department of Motor
Vehicles, Tesla lawyers recently admitted the $10,000 option that Tesla
sells as Full Self-Driving Capability
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