Re: Free Will Theorem

2005-04-13 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Hal Finney wrote: The question of free will has generated an enormous amount of philosophical literature. I'd suggest reading at least the first part of this page on Compatibilism, http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/compatibilism/. Compatibilism is the doctrine that free will is compatible with

Re: Free Will Theorem

2005-04-13 Thread Hal Ruhl
In various places including a post in the All/Nothing multiverse thread: http://www.escribe.com/science/theory/m5859.html I have defined information as the potential to establish a boundary. I have been arguing that Turing's decision procedure result points towards the multiverse being a

Re: Free Will Theorem

2005-04-13 Thread John M
Please find my remarks interspaced below. John M - Original Message - From: Russell Standish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stathis Papaioannou [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; everything-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Free Will Theorem Russell wrote in

Re: John Conway, Free Will Theorem

2005-04-13 Thread John M
Stathis wrote: A person's decisions and actions must either follow deterministically from a set of rules (which at bottom must reduce to the laws of physics, whatever these ultimately turn out to be), or else they must be random; what other possibility is there?... [JM]: The inaccuracy of the

Re: Free Will Theorem

2005-04-13 Thread Hal Finney
Stathis Papaioannou writes Here is my definition: a decision I make is free when I feel that I could have decided otherwise. Is the question of free will just a matter of definitions? Definitional arguments are sterile and have no meaning. If I define free will to be a 14 pound bowling ball,

JOIN: Hello

2005-04-13 Thread Mark Fancey
Hello all, I am a 5th year computer engineering student at Memorial University of Newfoundland (Canada). I have an avid interest in quantum mechanics and philosophy. I would like to take this opportunity to introduce myself and thank you all for making this list available and interesting. Yours

Re: JOIN: Hello

2005-04-13 Thread Hal Finney
Mark Fancey writes: I am a 5th year computer engineering student at Memorial University of Newfoundland (Canada). I have an avid interest in quantum mechanics and philosophy. I would like to take this opportunity to introduce myself and thank you all for making this list available and

RE: Free Will Theorem

2005-04-13 Thread Brent Meeker
-Original Message- From: John M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:04 PM To: Russell Standish; Stathis Papaioannou Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; everything-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Free Will Theorem .. [JM]: I am sure you do a decent job. Tierra, however, does not

Re: Free Will Theorem

2005-04-13 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 06:03:57PM -0400, John M wrote: Please find my remarks interspaced below. As are mine... John M - Original Message - From: Russell Standish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stathis Papaioannou [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; everything-list@eskimo.com Sent:

many worlds theory of immortality

2005-04-13 Thread Nick Prince
My apologies to the group for bringing up questions which may have been covererd before but I cannot find an answer to the following query and I am new to the group. I have a question to put to anyone who has some ideas as follows: If the MW immortality is correct then would we not only be

Re: many worlds theory of immortality

2005-04-13 Thread Hal Finney
Nick Prince writes: If the MW immortality is correct then would we not only be immortal but also very alone in the end. We know that we observe others die so since we always find ourselves in a branch of the multiverse where we live on - the conclusion seems inescapable Can anyone figure

Re: many worlds theory of immortality

2005-04-13 Thread Russell Standish
I don't beleive QTI implies this at all. It does imply that your experienced reality will get rather weird, as strange coincidences will start happening to keep you alive. It also implies that friends will be temporary, as you will see them all die off eventually - but many people change

RE: Free Will Theorem

2005-04-13 Thread Brent Meeker
-Original Message- From: John M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:05 PM To: Brent Meeker; everything-list@eskimo.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Free Will Theorem Dear Brent, I wish I had the insight into future development of our knowledge-base. Or am

Re: many worlds theory of immortality

2005-04-13 Thread David Kwinter
Hi Nick, I asked a question in a thread Quantum accident survivor some time ago where, at least in my mind, it was concluded that we can indeed be removed from loved ones each time we survive a situation that was clearly deadly in most cases and that one's consciousness is nudged away from the

RE: many worlds theory of immortality

2005-04-13 Thread Jesse Mazer
Nick Prince wrote: My apologies to the group for bringing up questions which may have been covererd before but I cannot find an answer to the following query and I am new to the group. I have a question to put to anyone who has some ideas as follows: If the MW immortality is correct then would we

Re: Hello

2005-04-13 Thread Mark Fancey
Hi Mark, Could you tell us about some of the books that you have read on the subject and about some of your basic ideas? Stephen Hi Stephen all, I have read mostly popular science books like Hawking's ABHoT, Einstein's Relativity, Feynmann's QED, Johnson's A Shortcut Through Time

RE: many worlds theory of immortality

2005-04-13 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
You're right, alas. If QTI is correct, then each of us can expect to be the last conscious being in some branch of the multiverse. On the brighter side, we will have probably billions or trillions of years during which even the most sociable amongst us may well tire of sentient company! The

RE: many worlds theory of immortality

2005-04-13 Thread Jesse Mazer
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: You're right, alas. If QTI is correct, then each of us can expect to be the last conscious being in some branch of the multiverse. On the brighter side, we will have probably billions or trillions of years during which even the most sociable amongst us may well tire