Re: Emotions

2008-10-30 Thread Russell Standish
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 05:48:11PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 29 Oct 2008, at 06:09, Russell Standish wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 09:04:15AM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> > >> Ah! See my papers for a proof that indeed consciousness does not > >> emerge from brain funct

Re: QTI & euthanasia

2008-10-30 Thread Brent Meeker
Kory Heath wrote: > > On Oct 30, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> But ok, perhaps I have make some progress lately, and I will answer >> that the probability remains invariant for that too. The probability >> remains equal to 1/2 in the imperfect duplication (assuming 1/2 is >> th

Re: QTI & euthanasia

2008-10-30 Thread Kory Heath
On Oct 30, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > But ok, perhaps I have make some progress lately, and I will answer > that the probability remains invariant for that too. The probability > remains equal to 1/2 in the imperfect duplication (assuming 1/2 is > the perfect one). > But of c

Re: QTI & euthanasia

2008-10-30 Thread Michael Rosefield
At some point, doesn't it just become far more likely that the teleporter just doesn't work? I know that might seem like dodging the question, but it might be fundamentally impossible to ignore all possibilities. 2008/10/30 Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > 200

Re: QTI & euthanasia

2008-10-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > 2008/10/30 Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> The seven first steps of the UD Argument show this already indeed, if >> you accept some Occam Razor. The movie graph is a much subtle >> argument >> showing you don't need occam razor: not only a machine cannot >>

Re: QTI & euthanasia

2008-10-30 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2008/10/30 Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > To make a prediction on the future from the past you have to remember > the past (or at least some relevant part of the past). If you allow > (partial) amnesia, it could depend on many things including the type > of computations allowing the amnesia

Re: Emotions

2008-10-30 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2008/10/30 Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The seven first steps of the UD Argument show this already indeed, if > you accept some Occam Razor. The movie graph is a much subtle argument > showing you don't need occam razor: not only a machine cannot > distinguish real from virtual, but canno

Re: QTI & euthanasia

2008-10-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 30 Oct 2008, at 07:51, Kory Heath wrote: > > > On Oct 28, 2008, at 12:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> Measure theory is the branch of math which has been invented to >> tackle >> those infinities, and those similarity relations. > > I don't know much about measure theory. I understand a bit