Re: Consciousness is information?

2009-05-06 Thread Torgny Tholerus
Bruno Marchal skrev: > > Something conscious cannot doubt about the existence of its > consciousness, I think, although it can doubt everything else it can > be conscious *about*. > It is the unprovable (but coverable) fixed point of Descartes > systematic doubting procedure (this fit well with

Re: Temporary Reality

2009-05-06 Thread daddycaylor
On May 4, 6:13 am, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > 2009/5/4  : > > > > > I agree that religion, and a lot of other stuff, produces a lot of > > fake certainty.  Not good.  So that implies that atheism is the way to > > go? > > > But doesn't it make sense that if God were personal, and a human > > pe

RE: Temporary Reality

2009-05-06 Thread Jesse Mazer
> Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:33:52 -0700 > Subject: Re: Temporary Reality > From: daddycay...@msn.com > To: everything-list@googlegroups.com > > > On May 4, 6:13 am, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: >> 2009/5/4 : >> >> >> >>> I agree that religion, and a lot of other stuff, produces a lot of >>> fak

Re: Temporary Reality

2009-05-06 Thread Kim Jones
On 07/05/2009, at 4:33 AM, daddycay...@msn.com wrote: > The purpose of my questions was to question the suggested advantage of > using atheism as the [preferred] fixed point from which to view the > universe [by a person]. OK - the only advantage I am suggesting is that atheism be seen as a

Re: Temporary Reality

2009-05-06 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2009/5/7 : > > On May 4, 6:13 am, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: >> 2009/5/4  : >> >> >> >> > I agree that religion, and a lot of other stuff, produces a lot of >> > fake certainty.  Not good.  So that implies that atheism is the way to >> > go? >> >> > But doesn't it make sense that if God were per

Re: Temporary Reality

2009-05-06 Thread daddycaylor
On May 6, 3:14 pm, Kim Jones wrote: > On 07/05/2009, at 4:33 AM, daddycay...@msn.com wrote: > > > The purpose of my questions was to question the suggested advantage of > > using atheism as the [preferred] fixed point from which to view the > > universe [by a person]. > > OK - the only advantage

Re: Temporary Reality

2009-05-06 Thread daddycaylor
On May 6, 12:47 pm, Jesse Mazer wrote: > > Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:33:52 -0700 > > Subject: Re: Temporary Reality > > From: daddycay...@msn.com > > To: everything-list@googlegroups.com > > > On May 4, 6:13 am, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > >> 2009/5/4  : > > >>> I agree that religion, and a lot