On 12/2/2012 7:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The 1p truth of the machine is not coded in the machine. Some actual machines knows
already that, and can justified that If there are machine (and from outside we can know
this to correct) then the 1p-truth is not codable. The 1p truth are more related
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On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 07:51:28AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Russell Standish
>
> Good information; it made me look up el nino and la nina and I
> I see that as you observe, these are fundamentally phenomena
> of the southern hemisphere, so can't explain the north pole
> warming.
>
I'm
On 12/2/2012 1:09 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
Politicians, on the other hand, should be
thinking very hard about what to do about all this, but unfortunately
are usually only interested in the next election.
And it's not entirely the politicians fault; they've learned that their constituents ar
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On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 08:50:46PM -0500, Stephen P. King wrote:
> "Scientists Peg Sea Level Rise from Polar Ice Melt at 11.1
> Millimeters Since 1992".
> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=scientists-measure-sea-rise-from-po
>
> What is the panic about?
>
>
Because of the +v
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On Sunday, December 2, 2012 6:49:01 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
>
> Hi Craig Weinberg
>
> Good points, and I very much welcome your sharing of information and
> discussion on Peirce, particularly:
>
> 1) Peirce said "Nothing is a sign unless it is interpreted as a sign".
> Fuuny you mention t
On 12/2/2012 10:43 AM, John Clark wrote:
Now it's usually down is some kind of detector that amplifies the effect of
each
electron. Neither one has anything to do with destroying the electron.
You don't need to destroy the electrons you just have to arrange things so that the
effect
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> Again there is nothing special about an observer in this, the
>> same thing would happen if nobody looked at the film, or even if you used a
>> brick wall instead of film, because the important thing is not that the
>> photon makes a recor
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On 11/30/2012 10:02 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
And a transcendent truth could be arithmetic truth or
the truth of necessary logic.
True in logic and formal mathematics is just marker "T" that is preserved by t
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Hi Stephen P. King
Amen.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
12/2/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
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On 02 Dec 2012, at 13:11, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
Semantic truth I think is 1p (personal, private) truth,
Truth is always semantical, and it can be 3p (it usually is).
Subjective truth, like with feeling, sensations, ... is 1p, but it is
only a personal relative view on someth
Hi Russell Standish
Good information; it made me look up el nino and la nina and I
I see that as you observe, these are fundamentally phenomena
of the southern hemisphere, so can't explain the north pole
warming.
What is particularly notable in the vostok data is the sharp
cooling slopes but
Roger,
Computers will do 1p truth when their results become emergent
in which case they will be doing the coding as well so to speak.
Richard
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Bruno Marchal
>
> Semantic truth I think is 1p (personal, private) truth,
> which mnakes it contin
Hi Bruno Marchal
Semantic truth I think is 1p (personal, private) truth,
which mnakes it contingent, while logical truth is necessary
as well as public or 3p truth. I think
comnputers have problems with 1p truth because
for one thing the coding is done by someone outside.
[Roger Clough], [rclo.
On passion vs reason,
Romans 7:15
New International Version (NIV)
15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I
hate I do.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
12/2/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
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Hi Craig Weinberg
Good points, and I very much welcome your sharing of information and
discussion on Peirce, particularly:
1) Peirce said "Nothing is a sign unless it is interpreted as a sign".
Fuuny you mention that, because last night I realized the same thing.
This is a serious problem for c
On 30 Nov 2012, at 20:08, Jesse Mazer wrote:
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Craig Weinberg > wrote:
On Friday, November 30, 2012 10:32:35 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote:
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
> Richard,
>
>
> On 28 Nov 2012, at 12:18, Richard Ruquist wrote:
On 01 Dec 2012, at 19:40, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 Bruno Marchal wrote:
> It is hard for me to see if you have a genuine misunderstanding,
or if you just play words. Frankly.
Words are used to think with and in a world with duplicating
chambers simple words that normally
On 30 Nov 2012, at 21:28, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/30/2012 10:02 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
And a transcendent truth could be arithmetic truth or
the truth of necessary logic.
True in logic and formal mathematics is just marker "T" that is
preserved by the rules of inference.
This makes no se
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Hi Russell Standi
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