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2015-01-12 5:38 GMT+01:00 John Clark : > On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > >> >> > That is where Private Protection Agencies come in. I am not so naive as >>> to suggest that force would never be needed in Anarcho-Capitali

RE: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 10:52 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? On 1/11/2015 8:

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From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Chris, Hey Roger ~ sorry for the belatedness of my reply 1.It sure is hard to visualize the "absolute lack-of-all", I agree. What I try to do is to shut my eyes and try to imagine the universe an

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On 1/11/2015 8:38 PM, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> wrote: > That is where Private Protection Agencies come in. I am not so naive as to suggest that force would never be needed in Anarch

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

On 1/11/2015 8:05 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: *From:*everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *meekerdb On 1/11/2015 6:39 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: Once Bruno explained to me how he intends th

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On 1/11/2015 7:49 PM, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 2:13 AM, meekerdb > wrote: >> If you and I are in a business relationship and we both make money it would be foolish of me to cheat you on a deal, I might make a little more money today

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

Everyone, I'd like to propose that we get back to the subject of discussing our ideas on how the universe works, why it's here, etc., and stop talking about religion so much. It'd be nice if we could all also provide constructive criticism if we disagree, instead of insults. If this turns

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On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > That is where Private Protection Agencies come in. I am not so naive as >> to suggest that force would never be needed in Anarcho-Capitalism, I'm just >> saying that less of it would be n

Isn't this group supposed to be about trying to figure out how the universe works and not so much about religion and insults?

Everyone, I'd like to propose that we get back to the subject of discussing our ideas on how the universe works, why it's here, etc., and stop talking about religion so much. It'd be nice if we could all also provide constructive criticism if we disagree, instead of insults. If this turns

RE: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb On 1/11/2015 6:39 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: Once Bruno explained to me how he intends the term god when he uses it I understood his intent. Clearly he is not

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From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: >> Well, if it insults the prophet (it's about time somebody did) and if >> religious imbeciles hate it the

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On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 2:13 AM, meekerdb wrote: > >> If you and I are in a business relationship and we both make money it >> would be foolish of me to cheat you on a deal, I might make a little more >> money today but having destroyed our partnership I will have lost the money >> I would have

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

On 1/11/2015 6:39 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: Once Bruno explained to me how he intends the term god when he uses it I understood his intent. Clearly he is not connoting some biblical deity when he uses the term. While it may be a continuous source of confusion for him as

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

On 1/11/2015 6:30 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 2:04 AM, meekerdb > wrote: On 1/11/2015 9:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: We can't criticize religions because the churches, with the help of the main stream atheist (of your ty

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> Well, if it insults the prophet (it's about time somebody did) and if >> religious imbeciles hate it then it can't be all bad. > > > >So then by your argument, defecating in holy water f

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On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:39 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > > > *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto: > everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Platonist Guitar Cowboy > *Sent:* Sunday, January 11, 2015 6:30 PM > *T

RE: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Platonist Guitar Cowboy Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 6:30 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

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On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 2:04 AM, meekerdb wrote: > On 1/11/2015 9:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > We can't criticize religions because the churches, with the help of the > main stream atheist (of your type), does not want us to come back to > reasoning at that level, yet. > > > All the atheists

RE: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 5:45 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Chris

RE: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

-Original Message- From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 5:48 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectic

RE: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 5:19 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Hi, I am

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On 1/11/2015 4:22 PM, LizR wrote: Also on the subject http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/27987-these-terrorist-attacks-are-not-about-religion They say it's about their religion when they do it. They cite religious reasons for doing it. Of course almost any action has multiple ca

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From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR This is all very interesting but I still don't think they deserved to be killed whatever they said. I might or might not object - possibly with verbal violence - to the content of the car

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Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Chris, as they say in Texas, you cannot dance at two weddings. We are not soon, going to live in a world, where there are psychologically clean choices. You can pass around the joint of the progressive ideology, but it won't protect people in the US, nor anywhere els

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Sent from AOL Mobile Mail I beg to differ with Karim on this. If it wasn't about religion, why then did the perps go to that deli, or, as under reported deliberately, where the black police women was slain, standing guard outside a Jewish school, where one of the jihadists tried to enter? Its

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From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Whlie on the subject It is the poisonous meme of a clash of civilizations that breeds both the sickness (and unpunished war crimes) of Abu Ghraib as well as sustaining Islamic fanatic

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From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 3:26 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? Fur sure, Chris, except thanks to a p

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Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Hi, I am familiar with juan cole and which side he is on, to be blunt. Familiar enough to know that I rarely trust his judgements. To his view about Bush, the same can be said by a jihadist who would then have blamed Bill Clinton for his meddling, and the same voices

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On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at Bruno Marchal wrote: > > >>> I believe in God. >> >> >> >> Yes, I knew you'd say that. Even though you just said "God" means >> many things depending on the time, place and culture you apparently believe >> in every single one of them because you can't bring yourself to

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

On 1/11/2015 9:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: We can't criticize religions because the churches, with the help of the main stream atheist (of your type), does not want us to come back to reasoning at that level, yet. All the atheists I know are fine with a search for fundamental reality with a sci

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Also on the subject http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/27987-these-terrorist-attacks-are-not-about-religion -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

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Whlie on the subject http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/27996--focus-paris-terrorist-was-radicalized-by-bushs-iraq-war-abu-ghraib-torture -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop rec

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This is all very interesting but I still don't think they deserved to be killed whatever they said. I might or might not object - possibly with verbal violence - to the content of the cartoons, if I knew more about them. E.g. I might argue that they were racist, not funny etc - I can't judge that o

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Fur sure, Chris, except thanks to a progressive mindset put to policies, they will likely attack us first here as they did in Paris and in Aussie last month. No jaunt to Syria is necessary. Please leave the 'turn the other cheek, thinking' for the Jesus folk. To quote Leon Trotsky, Chris, or p

Re: Democracy

On 1/11/2015 12:27 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 7:14 AM, meekerdb > wrote: On 1/10/2015 12:54 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 7:19 PM, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote: On 1/10/2015 2:00 AM, Telm

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From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Samiya Illias Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 11:58 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? On

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From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 1:09 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: > Have you seen the cartoons… that went beyond criticizing or poking fun at > someone else’s fai

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From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 4:57 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? Should the US then send drone strikes

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From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] In this case the perps are motivated by eternity in Jannah (paradise) meaning hot and could running houaris (heavenly women) and wine. The Profit has permitted the drinking of wine in Jannah. No tipple he

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On 11 Jan 2015, at 16:52, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: I'm sorry, but I can't let you say that charlie hebdo was a racist magazine... it's simply false, they were fundamentally against institutionalized religions, that's true... whatever

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Question, Bruno, Is it theoretically, plausible, to get a verified/testable reaction from this Platonic database in the sky? Can you do it with mathematics, physics?? Perhaps the traditional practice of prayer is the least efficacious means of contact? Mitch The debate God/ Non-God is utt

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On 11 Jan 2015, at 13:37, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: In this case the perps are motivated by eternity in Jannah (paradise) meaning hot and could running houaris (heavenly women) and wine. The Profit has permitted the drinking of wine in Jannah. No tipple here. Slaughter a Qufar

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On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 1:09 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Have you seen the cartoons… that went beyond criticizing or poking fun at > someone else’s faith… the portrayal of the prophet (for those of that > faith) is obscene, insulting, gr

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On 10 Jan 2015, at 22:47, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 PGC wrote: >>> Bruno -- he is very respectful of other people's opinions and always argues the ideas without resorting to name calling. >> Just yesterday Bruno called me a bigot, and it wasn't the first time. > Even if

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On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 Samiya Illias wrote: > When people criticise others' faiths, firstly it hurts others feeling Having your ideas criticized is seldom a pleasant experience, but if you're more interested in finding the truth than in hurt feelings it is necessary. > I think it would be far

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On 10 Jan 2015, at 06:53, John Clark wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: >>>But it is a simple and mudane facts that it means quite different things according to time, place, culture >> So is there any time place or culture where you would be willing to say in a loud clear unequivocal voice "

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2015-01-11 16:48 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes : > > > On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Quentin Anciaux > wrote: > >> >> >> 2015-01-11 9:37 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes : >> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Quentin Anciaux >>> wrote: >>> sh Le 11 janv. 2015 00:21, "Telmo Menezes" a

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On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > I'm sorry, but I can't let you say that charlie hebdo was a racist > magazine... it's simply false, they were fundamentally against > institutionalized religions, that's true... whatever they are, but racist > certainly not... it was a sat

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On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > 2015-01-11 9:37 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes : > >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Quentin Anciaux >> wrote: >> >>> sh >>> Le 11 janv. 2015 00:21, "Telmo Menezes" a >>> écrit : >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at

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I'm sorry, but I can't let you say that charlie hebdo was a racist magazine... it's simply false, they were fundamentally against institutionalized religions, that's true... whatever they are, but racist certainly not... it was a satyrical political magazine... Quentin 2015-01-11 7:09 GMT+01:00 '

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2015-01-11 9:37 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes : > > > On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Quentin Anciaux > wrote: > >> sh >> Le 11 janv. 2015 00:21, "Telmo Menezes" a écrit >> : >> >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 12:06 AM, Quentin Anciaux >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2015-01-11 0:03 G

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Should the US then send drone strikes on Muslim newspapers and magazines for using their cartoonists and TV shows 'attacking' the US-a rhetorical question indeed. Eventually, there might be a true clash of civilizations, more than we have now. Right now, I would say, the Islamists are winning, b

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In this case the perps are motivated by eternity in Jannah (paradise) meaning hot and could running houaris (heavenly women) and wine. The Profit has permitted the drinking of wine in Jannah. No tipple here. Slaughter a Qufar (infidel) and win a ticket to paradise (like Eddy Money song). Do you

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On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > sh > Le 11 janv. 2015 00:21, "Telmo Menezes" a écrit : > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 12:06 AM, Quentin Anciaux > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> 2015-01-11 0:03 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes : > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, Jan 10, 20

Re: Democracy

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 7:14 AM, meekerdb wrote: > On 1/10/2015 12:54 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 7:19 PM, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 1/10/2015 2:00 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:24 AM, meekerdb wrote: >> >>> On 1/9/2015 3:11 PM, '