Re: Carroll and Motul

2015-03-17 Thread Bruce Kellett
meekerdb wrote: On 3/17/2015 2:50 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: To be sure, I have to meditate more on some of Sean Carroll saying about how to interpret stationary states in quantum mechanics, too. This is one of the more interesting questions Sean raises and I am not sure

Re: Carroll and Motul

2015-03-17 Thread meekerdb
On 3/17/2015 2:50 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: To be sure, I have to meditate more on some of Sean Carroll saying about how to interpret stationary states in quantum mechanics, too. This is one of the more interesting questions Sean raises and I am not sure I have fully und

Re: Humans Hold Anti-AI, Anti-Robot Protest in Texas

2015-03-17 Thread LizR
Elon Musk wants to send people to Mars apparently. On 18 March 2015 at 00:01, spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Me neither but its supposed to be an ultra highspeed train from LA -SF. > Like in Aussie (yes I remember your Kiwiness) where it'd be Melbourn

Re: Price promotion for Amoeba's secret

2015-03-17 Thread LizR
Yes 20 copies can be sold to the people on this list! (After that it gets more difficult...) "The Amoeba's Secret Theory of Nothing" has a ring to it :-) On 18 March 2015 at 00:03, spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I think we need a Sequel of sorts to Am

Re: The world's most environmentally friendly car

2015-03-17 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 16 Mar 2015, at 11:47, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:34 AM, LizR wrote: > >> Well of course laughing AT people you dislike is a classic bullying >> technique. And then you say "oh come on it was only a joke!"

Re: Carroll and Motul

2015-03-17 Thread Bruce Kellett
Bruno Marchal wrote: To be sure, I have to meditate more on some of Sean Carroll saying about how to interpret stationary states in quantum mechanics, too. This is one of the more interesting questions Sean raises and I am not sure I have fully understood his answer to the main problem. Th

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Mar 2015, at 02:29, LizR wrote: On 16 March 2015 at 06:49, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 Telmo Menezes wrote: > Organisms apply pressure on surfaces, even if they are dead. This is just a property of chunks of solid matter. Evolution did not create this behaviour I disa

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Mar 2015, at 02:15, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 meekerdb wrote > consciousness may be an necessary spandrel of brain architecture, but NOT of intelligence in general. The same drugs that make me behave stupidly also makes me feel less conscious, It depends on the dru

Re: The world's most environmentally friendly car

2015-03-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Mar 2015, at 11:47, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:34 AM, LizR wrote: Well of course laughing AT people you dislike is a classic bullying technique. And then you say "oh come on it was only a joke!" Yet bullies never make jokes about themselves, because they are

Re: Carroll and Motul

2015-03-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Mar 2015, at 15:33, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 12 Mar 2015, at 02:07, meekerdb wrote: An excellent talk by Sean Carroll explicating where the gaps are in Everett's MWI as applied to cosmology and providing a solution to the Boltzmann brain problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TF

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Mar 2015, at 03:57, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 meekerdb wrote: > You assume that intelligence only comes from brains. Only a fool would not assume that and I am not a fool. > It is true that drugs that make brains less intelligent make them less conscious. But it might

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Mar 2015, at 00:32, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 meekerdb wrote: > you've exaggerated the example to create a straw man. Watson has some local database, he doesn't access the web for everything; so my analogy is correct. How is that a straw man?? The Jeopardy champagne

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Mar 2015, at 19:44, meekerdb wrote: On 3/16/2015 12:33 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 9:11 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 3/15/2015 7:10 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:00 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 3/13/2015 10:26 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: or under

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
"Extra virgin, extra virgin looove!" That's from the intro jingle to a Yank cooking show. Now imagine Watson being an app and putting on yer phones-what could it achieve for us? I think if we achieve tru AI, without me knowing any better, I say imitate nature if we can. Spindle cells, neurobiol

Re: Price promotion for Amoeba's secret

2015-03-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I think we need a Sequel of sorts to Amoeba, as well as the Theory of Nothing (yours). Which you two must know you have a ready market. Mitch -Original Message- From: Russell Standish To: everything-list Sent: Mon, Mar 16, 2015 7:25 pm Subject: Price promotion for Amoeba's secret

Re: Humans Hold Anti-AI, Anti-Robot Protest in Texas

2015-03-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Me neither but its supposed to be an ultra highspeed train from LA -SF. Like in Aussie (yes I remember your Kiwiness) where it'd be Melbourne to Sydney, kind of. Will it ever be built? Well the dude has cash invested so its kind of neat in the 19th cent,. industrialist kind of thing with bridges