Re: Non-Evolutionary Superintelligences Do Nothing, Eventually

On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 Telmo Menezes wrote: ​> ​ > We know that humans are capable of choosing self-destruction. It is > also obvious that most don't ​I would argue that given the proper circumstances anybody would choose self destruction.​ ​I just saw a documentary

Re: Non-Evolutionary Superintelligences Do Nothing, Eventually

On 9/12/2016 3:00 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 9/12/2016 8:50 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 9/11/2016 4:07 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Hi

Re: Aaronson/Penrose

On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 2:14:18 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 11 Sep 2016, at 20:48, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 12:02:03 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 10 Sep 2016, at 19:43, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On

Re: Non-Evolutionary Superintelligences Do Nothing, Eventually

On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 Telmo Menezes wrote: ​> ​ > I also agree with the JKC that the superintelligence cannot model > ​ ​ > itself and predict its actions in the long term. On the other hand, > ​ ​ > I'm sure it can predict the outcome of it's next action. ​If the

Re: A question for Bruno

On Monday, 12 September 2016, wrote: Ahaa! So it is the monkey typing randomly that creates everything. But > where does he/it get the clock and the notion of a successor element? God > given? AG > Ordering by an external clock is unnecessary for a subjective sense of

Re: Non-Evolutionary Superintelligences Do Nothing, Eventually

On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 9/12/2016 8:50 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Brent Meeker >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 9/11/2016 4:07 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Hi Brent, On

Re: Non-Evolutionary Superintelligences Do Nothing, Eventually

On 9/12/2016 8:50 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 9/11/2016 4:07 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Hi Brent, On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: Good paper. Thanks! Many of the

Re: Non-Evolutionary Superintelligences Do Nothing, Eventually

On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > >> ​> ​ >> The paper clip scenario could only happen in a intelligence that had a >> top >> ​ ​ >> goal that was fixed and inflexible. Humans have no such goal, not even the >> ​ ​ >> goal of self preservation,

Re: Non-Evolutionary Superintelligences Do Nothing, Eventually

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 9/11/2016 4:07 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> Hi Brent, >> >> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Brent Meeker >> wrote: >>> >>> Good paper. >> >> Thanks! >> >>> Many of the thoughts I've had

Re: Non-Evolutionary Superintelligences Do Nothing, Eventually

> Telmo, I downloaded and read your new paper a couple of day back. So it is > getting "air-play," as the used to call it, in the States. It is getting > read by us nerds, at least. I am not sure if I can comprehend it's meaning, > but, then, I have great, difficulty, comprehending Cisco routers

Re: Non-Evolutionary Superintelligences Do Nothing, Eventually

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 5:15 PM, John Clark wrote: > On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Telmo Menezes > wrote: > >> > >> That is one type of worry. The other (e.g.: the "paper clip" scenario) > > > The paper clip scenario could only happen in a

Re: Aaronson/Penrose

On 11 Sep 2016, at 20:48, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 12:02:03 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Sep 2016, at 19:43, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 1:45:56 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 09 Sep 2016, at

Re: A question for Bruno

On 11 Sep 2016, at 19:23, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 10:50:17 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Sep 2016, at 16:22, Stephen Paul King wrote: Hi, Is there any consideration of the duration of the period of time of the moment? Are they assumed