Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 2:33:16 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 11:24:36 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 1:16 PM, wrote: >> >> ​> ​ >>> Since your conclusions seem immensely more bizarre than collapse of the >>> wf,

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 1:19:05 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 11/25/2017 9:55 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > Applying deBroglie's formula, a change in p changes the wave length, and > thus the distribution on the screen. That is, the ensemble responds to > changes in the wave len

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 11:24:36 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 1:16 PM, > > wrote: > > ​> ​ >> Since your conclusions seem immensely more bizarre than collapse of the >> wf, >> ​ ​ >> your interpretation of what the SE means must be in error. >> > > It's a ma

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 1:58:35 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 11/25/2017 7:38 AM, John Clark wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 4:08 PM, > > wrote: > > * ​> ​>>​ ​ Do you really think that when you pull a slot machine and get some outcome, the 10 million other possible outcomes o

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On 11/25/2017 7:38 AM, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 4:08 PM, >wrote: * ​> ​>>​ ​ Do you really think that when you pull a slot machine and get some outcome, the 10 million other

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 11:24:36 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 1:16 PM, > > wrote: > > ​> ​ >> Since your conclusions seem immensely more bizarre than collapse of the >> wf, >> ​ ​ >> your interpretation of what the SE means must be in error. >> > > It's a ma

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On 11/25/2017 9:55 AM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: Applying deBroglie's formula, a change in p changes the wave length, and thus the distribution on the screen. That is, the ensemble responds to changes in the wave length due to interference. I therefore deduce that the wave length has a ph

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 1:16 PM, wrote: ​> ​ > Since your conclusions seem immensely more bizarre than collapse of the wf, > ​ ​ > your interpretation of what the SE means must be in error. > It's a matter of taste I suppose. To me everything that can happen does happen is less bizarre than the

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 2:19:48 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > If the ensemble's distribution changes as a consequence of changes in the > wf, IMO there is reason to believe the wf has ontic properties. That's all > I was alleging. AG > ψ-ontology is not consistent wit

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 7:11:52 PM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 11:55:47 AM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 3:06:50 PM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 9:21:14

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 11:55:47 AM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 3:06:50 PM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 9:21:14 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, November 23, 2017

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 3:39:00 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 4:08 PM, > > wrote: > > *​>​>>​ ​Do you really think that when you pull a slot machine and get some outcome, the 10 million other possible outcomes occur in 10 million other universe? * >>

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 3:06:50 PM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 9:21:14 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 11:15:40 PM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> I am new to this list and have not

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 4:08 PM, wrote: *​>​>>​ ​Do you really think that when you pull a slot machine and get some >>> outcome, the 10 million other possible outcomes occur in 10 million other >>> universe? * >>> >> >> ​>> ​ >> ​I could be wrong but that would be my best guess.​ >> > > ​> ​ > Is

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 9:21:14 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 11:15:40 PM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> >> >> I am new to this list and have not followed all the arguments here. In >> weighing in here I might be making an error of no