Re: How much is too Many Worlds, is it just right?

2019-09-26 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 3:43 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 7:04:42 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:00 AM Stathis Papaioannou >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 22:02, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> No. I am just applying logic to a

Re: How much is too Many Worlds, is it just right?

2019-09-26 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 7:04:42 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:00 AM Stathis Papaioannou > wrote: > >> On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 22:02, Alan Grayson > > wrote: >> >>> >>> No. I am just applying logic to a model and showing it makes no sense -- >>> something those

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

2019-09-26 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:22 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On 9/26/2019 5:53 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:35 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> On 9/26/2019 5:01

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

2019-09-26 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 9/26/2019 5:53 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:35 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: On 9/26/2019 5:01 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

2019-09-26 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:05 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On 9/26/2019 5:16 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:01 AM Lawrence Crowell < > goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

2019-09-26 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 9/26/2019 5:16 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:01 AM Lawrence Crowell > wrote: On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong

Re: How much is too Many Worlds, is it just right?

2019-09-26 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:00 AM Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 22:02, Alan Grayson wrote: > >> >> No. I am just applying logic to a model and showing it makes no sense -- >> something those who disagree, strenuously avoid to maintain their >> illusions. AG >> > > There is

Re: How much is too Many Worlds, is it just right?

2019-09-26 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 22:02, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 12:53:30 PM UTC-6, stathisp wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 16:59, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 3:45:39 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote:

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

2019-09-26 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:35 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On 9/26/2019 5:01 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >> >> It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

2019-09-26 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I still haven't read Carroll's book I downloaded because it's more intellectually enervating to view this argument. Beyond this, let us do a Useless Straw Poll here. If you were forced to choose the shape of reality, between 3 options, which one would you choose?1)One Universe, 42 or 78 billion

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

2019-09-26 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 9/26/2019 5:01 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion about Sean Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read it? John K Clark I

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

2019-09-26 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:01 AM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >> >> It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion about Sean >> Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

2019-09-26 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion about Sean > Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read it? > > John K Clark > I have not read his book, but I have read his papers and

Re: How much is too Many Worlds, is it just right?

2019-09-26 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 12:53:30 PM UTC-6, stathisp wrote: > > > > On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 16:59, Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 3:45:39 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 3:11:27 AM UTC-5, Quentin

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

2019-09-26 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 9/26/2019 11:55 AM, smitra wrote: On 26-09-2019 02:56, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: On 9/25/2019 2:28 PM, smitra wrote: On 25-09-2019 15:30, Philip Thrift wrote: On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 8:15:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 9:11 AM Philip

Re: Observation versus assumption

2019-09-26 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 12:23 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: >> Then the fact that none of the p-adic distances are appropriate for > measuring things in the physical world is not important, so why don't we > start teaching that in the first grade? > > > Because it is not important with respect of what

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

2019-09-26 Thread smitra
On 26-09-2019 02:56, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: On 9/25/2019 2:28 PM, smitra wrote: On 25-09-2019 15:30, Philip Thrift wrote: On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 8:15:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 9:11 AM Philip Thrift wrote: On Wednesday, September

Re: How much is too Many Worlds, is it just right?

2019-09-26 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 16:59, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 3:45:39 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 3:11:27 AM UTC-5, Quentin Anciaux >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Le jeu. 26 sept. 2019 à 09:41, Philip Thrift a >>> écrit :

Re: Another physicist in mental decline (Sean Carroll)

2019-09-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 25 Sep 2019, at 14:15, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 5:26:21 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 24 Sep 2019, at 14:55, Alan Grayson > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 6:38:50 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 23

Re: Many Worlds morality

2019-09-26 Thread Alan Grayson
On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 12:08:35 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 25 Sep 2019, at 09:55, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 1:25:58 AM UTC-5, stathisp wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 at 08:16, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >>> >>> Many

Re: How much is too Many Worlds, is it just right?

2019-09-26 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 3:45:39 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 3:11:27 AM UTC-5, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> >> >> Le jeu. 26 sept. 2019 à 09:41, Philip Thrift a >> écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> I have one question (for Carroll or Zurek): >>> >>>

Re: How much is too Many Worlds, is it just right?

2019-09-26 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:45:39 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 3:11:27 AM UTC-5, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> >> >> Le jeu. 26 sept. 2019 à 09:41, Philip Thrift a >> écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> I have one question (for Carroll or Zurek): >>> >>>

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-26 Thread Quentin Anciaux
Le jeu. 26 sept. 2019 à 14:39, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit : > > > On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 11:48, Philip Thrift wrote: > >> >> >> On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:30:01 AM UTC-5, stathisp wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 09:41, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> On

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-26 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 11:48, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:30:01 AM UTC-5, stathisp wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 09:41, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 7:32:39 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: On

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-26 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:30:01 AM UTC-5, stathisp wrote: > > > > On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 09:41, Philip Thrift > wrote: > >> >> >> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 7:32:39 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/25/2019 8:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 24 Sep 2019,

How much is too Many Worlds, is it just right?

2019-09-26 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 3:11:27 AM UTC-5, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > Le jeu. 26 sept. 2019 à 09:41, Philip Thrift a > écrit : > >> >> >> I have one question (for Carroll or Zurek): >> >> Suppose world W branches *(in reality, not in "bookkeeping")* to worlds >> W0 and W1. >> >>

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-26 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 09:41, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 7:32:39 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 9/25/2019 8:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 24 Sep 2019, at 17:44, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 6:23:10 AM

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-26 Thread Quentin Anciaux
Le jeu. 26 sept. 2019 à 09:41, Philip Thrift a écrit : > > > On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 7:32:39 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 9/25/2019 8:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 24 Sep 2019, at 17:44, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 6:23:10 AM

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-26 Thread Philip Thrift
On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 7:32:39 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 9/25/2019 8:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 24 Sep 2019, at 17:44, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 6:23:10 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 24 Sep 2019, at 10:22,