Re: Penrose - Is Mathematics Invented or Discovered?

" Is Mathematics Invented or Discovered?" is the same as " Is Programming Invented or Discovered?" Arche-programming https://codicalist.wordpress.com/2019/08/22/arche-programming/ @philipthrift On Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 9:22:28 AM UTC-5 Lawrence Crowell wrote: > This is something we

Re: The Handmaid's Tale

The militias as of now are tiny, and ineffectual, and easily arrested by police. Give the left (now democrats) a chance, and anybody who doesn't want a totalitarian state (because it harms them and their family) will be part of a militia, or the the US will have split off. When you accuse orange

Re: Stenger on Initial Low Entropy

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 6:07 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 9:51 AM Jason Resch wrote: > >> I noticed that Victor Stenger's position on entropy, as described here: >> https://arxiv.org/pdf/1202.4359.pdf on page 7, appears to be the same as >> described by the cosmologist Davi

Re: Stenger on Initial Low Entropy

On Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 4:51:13 PM UTC-6, Jason wrote: > > I noticed that Victor Stenger's position on entropy, as described here: > https://arxiv.org/pdf/1202.4359.pdf on page 7, appears to be the same as > described by the cosmologist David Layzer in a 1975 issue of Scientific > Am

Re: Stenger on Initial Low Entropy

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 5:03 PM Russell Standish wrote: > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 04:49:35PM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 3:38 PM Russell Standish > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:07:32AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > > > > > It is refuted by t

Re: Stenger on Initial Low Entropy

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 04:49:35PM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 3:38 PM Russell Standish > wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:07:32AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > > > It is refuted by the idea of unitary evolution in QM. Unitary evolution > means >

Re: Stenger on Initial Low Entropy

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 3:38 PM Russell Standish wrote: > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:07:32AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > > > It is refuted by the idea of unitary evolution in QM. Unitary evolution > means > > that everything is reversible, If new microstates are created as the > universe > >

Re: Stenger on Initial Low Entropy

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:07:32AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > It is refuted by the idea of unitary evolution in QM. Unitary evolution means > that everything is reversible,  If new microstates are created as the universe > expands, then this expansion cannot be reversed:  the creation of such

Re: Stenger on Initial Low Entropy

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 9:51 AM Jason Resch wrote: > I noticed that Victor Stenger's position on entropy, as described here: > https://arxiv.org/pdf/1202.4359.pdf on page 7, appears to be the same as > described by the cosmologist David Layzer in a 1975 issue of Scientific > American: > https://

Stenger on Initial Low Entropy

I noticed that Victor Stenger's position on entropy, as described here: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1202.4359.pdf on page 7, appears to be the same as described by the cosmologist David Layzer in a 1975 issue of Scientific American: https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/assets/media/pdf/2008-05-21

Re: The Handmaid's Tale

On Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 4:39:02 PM UTC+2 Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 8 Oct 2020, at 19:23, spudboy100 via Everything List < > everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > I would say you are claiming that the behavior of many Black on White > attacks is not racism, > > > I did not claim anyt

Re: Evidence for, and implications of, fine-tuning

On 10/15/2020 12:46 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:56 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: You should have read Vic Stenger's "The Fallacy of Fine Tuning".  Vic points out how many examples of  fine tuning are

Re: Evidence for, and implications of, fine-tuning

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:56 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > You should have read Vic Stenger's "The Fallacy of Fine Tuning". Vic > points out how many examples of fine tuning are mis-conceived...including > Hoyle's prediction of an excited stat

Re: Evidence for, and implications of, fine-tuning

You should have read Vic Stenger's "The Fallacy of Fine Tuning". Vic points out how many examples of  fine tuning are mis-conceived...including Hoyle's prediction of an excited state of carbon.  Vic also points out the fallacy of just considering one parameter when the parameter space is high d

Re: Evidence for, and implications of, fine-tuning

This is the second time. I tend to work mostly off line. That way I do not have an open port, and in some ways this is a big part of my defense against malware and hacking. If I am not online I can’t be attacked. However, in writing in the group editor, big mistake, I hit send and my message

Re: The Handmaid's Tale

> On 8 Oct 2020, at 19:23, spudboy100 via Everything List > wrote: > > I would say you are claiming that the behavior of many Black on White attacks > is not racism, I did not claim anything like that. The black and the white who called themselves antiracists are racists, for example, and I

Re: Penrose - Is Mathematics Invented or Discovered?

This is something we will probably never know for sure. LC On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 11:20:27 PM UTC-5 agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujvS2K06dg4 > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To u

Re: Evidence for, and implications of, fine-tuning

Hi Lawrence, First I want to thank you for your highly detailed reply. I have some further comments and questions below, if you don't mind. On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 5:48 AM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > There is nothing wrong in particular with the idea of fine tun

Re: Evidence for, and implications of, fine-tuning

There is nothing wrong in particular with the idea of fine tuning. This does not logically imply a fine tuner. If there is a fine tuner, then it is reasonable to say there is fine tuning. However, the converse or modus tolens does not hold; fine tuning does not logically imply a fine tuner. The