Re: The Reverse Simulation Hypothesis and the Prime Doctrine

2022-08-25 Thread Brent Meeker
"I met a traveller from an antique land, Who said—"“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert. . . .Near them, on the sand, Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet

Re: The Reverse Simulation Hypothesis and the Prime Doctrine

2022-08-25 Thread Samiya Illias
The Mighty Ancients! Abstract The Earth is dotted with ancient ruins.The Quran asks us to take heed from these ruins, as those civilisations were ‘greater in strength and in impression on the land’. This study explores what the Quran states about the ancients, as well as lists the discoveries

Re: Information conservation and irreversibility

2022-08-25 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Ah, LC, your colleague Sabine Hossenfelder has given forth on the autodidactic universe. She doesn't hold with it but still enriches the knowledge base.  https://time.com/6208174/maybe-the-universe-thinks/ -Original Message- From: Lawrence Crowell To: Everything List Sent: Mon, Aug

Re: The Reverse Simulation Hypothesis and the Prime Doctrine

2022-08-25 Thread Brent Meeker
So Trump is actually more advanced than the rest of us. :-) Languages also get more complex by borrowing words and concepts from other languages. Brent On 8/25/2022 2:02 PM, Dirk Van Niekerk wrote: On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 12:05:52 PM UTC-7 jdi...@gmail.com wrote: The weird

Re: NYTimes.com: We Need to Talk About How Good A.I. Is Getting

2022-08-25 Thread Brent Meeker
On 8/25/2022 1:00 PM, smitra wrote: If intelligent life that's way more intelligent than insects gets replaced by AI systems with insect level intelligence together with all other life except microbes on a planet, then they are back where biology was in the Cambrian era. The fundamental

Re: The Reverse Simulation Hypothesis and the Prime Doctrine

2022-08-25 Thread Dirk Van Niekerk
On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 12:05:52 PM UTC-7 jdi...@gmail.com wrote: > The weird thing about "aryan" history (originally a linguistic term) is > that it is primarily a history of devolution. Classical Sanskrit is already > considerably less grammatically complex than its predecessors. So

Re: NYTimes.com: We Need to Talk About How Good A.I. Is Getting

2022-08-25 Thread smitra
If intelligent life that's way more intelligent than insects gets replaced by AI systems with insect level intelligence together with all other life except microbes on a planet, then they are back where biology was in the Cambrian era. The fundamental issue is that intelligence creatures will

Re: NYTimes.com: We Need to Talk About How Good A.I. Is Getting

2022-08-25 Thread smitra
On 24-08-2022 19:41, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 1:28 PM smitra wrote: All intelligent life in the universe likely ends in this way. The takeover by machines with insect-level intelligence or less, then explains why the galaxy hasn't already been colonized (the so-called Fermi

Re: The Reverse Simulation Hypothesis and the Prime Doctrine

2022-08-25 Thread Joel Dietz
The weird thing about "aryan" history (originally a linguistic term) is that it is primarily a history of devolution. Classical Sanskrit is already considerably less grammatically complex than its predecessors. So the earliest human ancestors presumably spoke a language that was far more advanced

Re: NYTimes.com: We Need to Talk About How Good A.I. Is Getting

2022-08-25 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 6:13 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: *> Why aren't we being visited by alien AIs? * Yes, that is the big question. The most obvious answer is because we are the first, and sometimes the most obvious answer turns out to be correct. John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at

Re: NYTimes.com: We Need to Talk About How Good A.I. Is Getting

2022-08-25 Thread Telmo Menezes
I suspect AI is already past insect-level for some tasks, e.g. image recognition and language understanding. The number of parameters in a state-of-the-art huge language model or in something like DALL-E 2 means that these are probably already more complex than an insect nervous system. I might