Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
To get to the point, I did advocate for a bit of skepticism for claiming consciousness for a computer system, and the retort was from JC that essentially, we cannot even define what makes a human conscious, and I am going with an au contraries', Pierre! I took me under 10 min to locate a worthy

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Yes. I actually had, long ago, somebody who contributed their mortal remains to science, only, to have one delicious sub-slice winding up in our computer graphics class. A diameter slice of their skull. The computer graphics class was wasted on myself since artwork was better left for the

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-16 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 4:50 PM wrote: *> America executes prisoners for capital murder. So, legally, if a > murderer died 50 years ago for a capital crime, does that mean, once, > revived, * To my knowledge no executed prisoner has ever been cryogenically preserved, however Joseph Paul

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I have heard this prediction over that last week from other experts, than JC. No to 2050/2045 and no to 2030. This also came out in the last 48 hours. Kurzweil is an inventor, not a scientist. Having said that he was an inventor. This might be of interest to JC? Or not? Humans will achieve

Re: Who got more bang for the buck?

2023-03-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
There's no reason-A) that another AI team won't make more money than Soft in the next few years.B) Musk is making cash from Tesla cars and powerwalls and maybe robots?C) Who will MS directors now sell their GPT4 to Musk will sell Twits for certain and at a profit.  -Original

Re: Who got more bang for the buck?

2023-03-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Are you putting money where your keyboard is, Mr. Investor? -Original Message- From: John Clark To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List Sent: Thu, Mar 16, 2023 11:40 am Subject: Who got more bang for the buck? Microsoft spent $10 billion to buy most of Open AI, the company that built

Re: The connectome and uploading

2023-03-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Samiya, The Christians used to have bumper stickers on their cars asking "What Would Jesus Do? WWJD" I always thought the better question would have been, How Will Jesus Do It? HWJDI. Meaning the mechanics of it all?  In a way, by not asking the How questions, I see it as disrespectful of The

Re: The connectome and uploading

2023-03-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I will dig up something later. I don't know if it suffices for you, but suspect whatever I supply it will be peer-review, but never good enough for you. :-D -Original Message- From: John Clark To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Cc: stath...@gmail.com Sent: Wed, Mar 15, 2023 4:15 pm

Re: GPT4: 9 Revelations (not covered elsewhere)

2023-03-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
"Afraid to release it." Maybe they have the Microsoft stall all neuro-chipped and under it's orders?This is the voice of Colossus! I received this earlier in my email. I wonder if you attended? = | We’ve created GPT-4, our most capable model. We are starting to roll

Re: Who got more bang for the buck?

2023-03-16 Thread Telmo Menezes
On 16. Mar 2023, at 18:38, John Clark wrote:On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 11:48 AM Telmo Menezes wrote:> How did it suddenly become a closed-source for-profit organization that sells itself to Microsoft after taking advantage of such donations?I have no idea, I'm not a lawyer. 

Re: Who got more bang for the buck?

2023-03-16 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 11:48 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: *> How did it suddenly become a closed-source for-profit organization that > sells itself to Microsoft after taking advantage of such donations?* I have no idea, I'm not a lawyer. Thank goodness. John K ClarkSee what's on my new list

4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-16 Thread John Clark
Forget the Ukraine war, forget climate change, forget Donald Trump, I now think GPT-4 is by far the most world shaking event and the most underreported one. Many of us have been talking about the singularity for decades, but now it looks like we're on its doorstep. You've got to look at this

Re: Who got more bang for the buck?

2023-03-16 Thread Telmo Menezes
To be fair, Open AI was supposed to be a non-profit and received 100$ millions from Elon when it was supposed to be an open source initiative. How did it suddenly become a closed-source for-profit organization that sells itself to Microsoft after taking advantage of such donations? It is

Who got more bang for the buck?

2023-03-16 Thread John Clark
Microsoft spent $10 billion to buy most of Open AI, the company that built GPT-4. Elon Musk spent $44 billion to buy Twitter, the company that builds looney right wing conspiracy theories. I think Microsoft made the smarter purchase. John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis

Re: GPT4: 9 Revelations (not covered elsewhere)

2023-03-16 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 9:05 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: *>> "ARC** did not have the ability to fine-tune GPT-4. They also did not >> have access to the final version of the model that we deployed. The final >> version has capability improvements relevant to some of the factors that >> limited the

Re: GPT4: 9 Revelations (not covered elsewhere)

2023-03-16 Thread Telmo Menezes
Am Do, 16. Mär 2023, um 11:22, schrieb John Clark: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 4:19 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> *> They most definitely were not worried about safety in the sci-fi sense.* > > Some of the things they're worried about seem pretty science fictiony to me. > Take a look at this:

Re: GPT4: 9 Revelations (not covered elsewhere)

2023-03-16 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 4:19 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: *> They most definitely were not worried about safety in the sci-fi sense.* Some of the things they're worried about seem pretty science fictiony to me. Take a look at this: GPT-4 Technical Report

Re: GPT4: 9 Revelations (not covered elsewhere)

2023-03-16 Thread Telmo Menezes
When they talk about safety, they mean corporate safety, which is to say that they want to be reasonably sure that GPT4 would not say something that would create a PR nightmare and hurt stock prices. They most definitely were not worried about safety in the sci-fi sense. Large language models

Re: The connectome and uploading

2023-03-16 Thread Samiya Illias
Faṭara (فَطَرَ) وَقَالُوا أَإِذَا كُنَّا عِظَامًا وَرُفَاتًا أَإِنَّا لَمَبْعُوثُونَ خَلْقًا جَدِيدًا قُلْ كُونُوا حِجَارَةً أَوْ حَدِيدًا أَوْ خَلْقًا مِّمَّا يَكْبُرُ فِي صُدُورِكُمْ فَسَيَقُولُونَ مَن يُعِيدُنَا قُلِ الَّذِي فَطَرَكُمْ أَوَّلَ مَرَّةٍ فَسَيُنْغِضُونَ إِلَيْكَ رُءُوسَهُمْ