I agree. But I don't think Biden has the guts or the energy to do it.
He should just resign due to health reasons in favor of Harris who I
think could do it. But would she?
Brent
On 7/12/2024 5:13 AM, PGC wrote:
Waking up is indeed what is needed. Of course, the Dem candidate
should be c
On 7/12/2024 3:24 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 7:04 PM Brent Meeker
wrote:
>> Sometimes on some problems the human brain could be considered
as being Turing Complete, otherwise we would never be able to
do anything that was intelligent.
/> ??? Ho
On 7/12/2024 3:15 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 8:09 PM Brent Meeker
wrote:
> /In case you've forgotten, the Turing test was based on text only
communication between an interlocutor asked to distinguish between
a computer pretending to be a human and a man or w
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 9:28 AM Jason Resch wrote:
>> I know that anything that can process data, and the human brain can
>> process data, can be emulated by a Turing Machine. And a Turing Machine is
>> Turing Complete.
>>
>
>
> *Perhaps you mean the brain is "Turing emulable" i.e. computable her
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 9:33 AM Jason Resch wrote:
*> Do you think that passing the Argonov test would constitute positive
> proof of consciousness?*
Maybe, but unlike Turing's Test, Argonov's Test will tell you nothing
about intelligence because it's too easy.
See what's on my new list at
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024, 7:02 AM John Clark wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 7:01 PM Jason Resch wrote:
>
> >> Who judges if the "phenomenal judgments" of the machine are correct or
>>> incorrect? Even humans can't agree among themselves about most
>>> philosophical matters, certainly that's true o
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024, 6:25 AM John Clark wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 7:04 PM Brent Meeker
> wrote:
>
> >> Sometimes on some problems the human brain could be considered as
>>> being Turing Complete, otherwise we would never be able to do anything that
>>> was intelligent.
>>
>>
>> *> ??? Ho
Waking up is indeed what is needed. Of course, the Dem candidate should be
changed. But in game theory terms, perhaps Stewart and Clooney don't go far
enough. *Even if Biden or some Dem won in November, does anybody really
believe that the other side would accept it, not contest the election
On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 4:58 PM Brent Meeker wrote:
> *elsewhere you have agreed that many data processing machines are not
> conscious because they take no actions based on the data being true. *
>
I don't recall ever saying that! What I may have said is, something may be
intelligent and thus
On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 7:01 PM Jason Resch wrote:
>> Who judges if the "phenomenal judgments" of the machine are correct or
>> incorrect? Even humans can't agree among themselves about most
>> philosophical matters, certainly that's true of members of this list.
>>
>
> *> They don't have to be c
On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 7:04 PM Brent Meeker wrote:
>> Sometimes on some problems the human brain could be considered as being
>> Turing Complete, otherwise we would never be able to do anything that was
>> intelligent.
>
>
> *> ??? How on Earth do you reach that conclusion.*
>
I reached that co
On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 8:09 PM Brent Meeker wrote:
> > *In case you've forgotten, the Turing test was based on text only
> communication between an interlocutor asked to distinguish between a
> computer pretending to be a human and a man or woman pretending to be a
> woman or man.*
>
Yes but th
@Jason. Uuu... big boy beliving in Santa Claus! Way to go!
On Tuesday 9 July 2024 at 14:50:10 UTC+3 Jason Resch wrote:
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>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, 4:05 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List <
> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> So, where is Santa Claus ?
>
>
> If he's possible in this univ
Who cares about the Turing test ? What does it have to do with being alive
? =)))
On Friday 12 July 2024 at 03:09:57 UTC+3 Brent Meeker wrote:
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> On 7/11/2024 1:56 PM, John Clark wrote:
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> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 4:37 PM Brent Meeker wrote:
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> *> A rock, along with many oth
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