On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 4:58 PM Brent Meeker <meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  *elsewhere you have agreed that many data processing machines are not
> conscious because they take no actions based on the data being true.  *
>

I don't recall ever saying that! What I may have said is, something may be
intelligent and thus conscious but I would have no way of knowing that
unless it acted intelligently. Maybe a rock is processing data in some way
that I don't understand and thus is conscious. But I doubt it.

*> I think of the paramecium that swims to the left because the water is to
> salty on the right as being conscious.*
>

Probably true. intelligence is not an all or nothing matter and I have
fundamental evidence that the same is true for consciousness: I'm more
conscious when I try to solve a calculus problem than I am when I'm about
to fall asleep.

 John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
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