Mark Peaty wrote:
No Brent, what I AM saying is that they are GONE! Well and truly
gorrnn!
But they lasted a lot longer than we have.
We could get side tracked into all sorts of discussions about how each
of the civilisations you named, waxed and waned more than once in the
: Re: Believing in Divine Destiny
A year ago or so Wei Dai put an end to religious discussions on the
list.
I don't remember if I did that a year ago or not, but I certainly think
the
current discussion is off-topic. This mailing list is based on the premise
that all possible universes exist
Dream on Brent ...
Regards
Mark Peaty CDES
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Brent Meeker wrote:
Klortho wrote:
The other thing I do is check to what extent a person's speech and
writings support and affirm the four fundamental ingredients of
civilisation:
OK, tell me where all those civilisations of the past have gone to,
because THEY did NOT survived.
Tell me what makes YOU so sure this current global civilisation can
survive. I am more than happy to be shown where I am wrong, but if you
TRULY disagree with what I am saying, I would like you
Well [EMAIL PROTECTED] your response has been even more disappointing
than even my very low expectation prepared me for. You have not even
recognised what my questions were about, let alone made any significant
attempt to address them.
As an ex-Christian I know what it is like to be sucked
Torgny Tholerus wrote:
Mark Peaty skrev:
However, we must call a spade a spade; all this guff that gets called
'theology' and 'spirituality' is ultimately a bunch of assertions that
can neither be proved nor disproved in any concrete sense because they
are all expressions of belief and
Are you saying I just dreamed that Sumer, Ur, Egypt, Babylon, Rome, Sparta,
Cathay, and the Indus Valley where civilization first developed and lasted for
thousands of years (much longer than the U.S. which is the oldest existing
democracy) were not democratic and pre-dated the scientific
oxygen, to burn - at
least in THIS universe.)
John M
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From: Saibal Mitra
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: Believing in Divine Destiny
The only connection I can think of is as follows. For any
[EMAIL PROTECTED], I rarely pass up an opportunity for religious debate,
but I am honestly overwhelmed by your recent posts. I hope you have not done
all this work just to be relegated to the list archive. How did you find us,
anyway?
Stathis Papaioannou
Stathis:
You, of all people, should realize that one belief system cannot reach over
to
another one. Logic - mindset is different, facts come in different shades,
evidence is
adjusted to the 'system', a belief system is a whole world.
Brent makes the same mistake: to argue from his 'scientific'
On 2/28/07, John Mikes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stathis:
You, of all people, should realize that one belief system cannot reach
over to
another one. Logic - mindset is different, facts come in different
shades, evidence is
adjusted to the 'system', a belief system is a whole world.
Brent
John Mikes wrote:
Stathis:
You, of all people, should realize that one belief system cannot reach
over to
another one. Logic - mindset is different, facts come in different
shades, evidence is
adjusted to the 'system', a belief system is a whole world.
Brent makes the same mistake: to
A year ago or so Wei Dai put an end to religious discussions on the list.
I don't remember if I did that a year ago or not, but I certainly think the
current discussion is off-topic. This mailing list is based on the premise
that all possible universes exist. Unless someone can think of a
The other thing I do is check to what extent a person's speech and
writings support and affirm the four fundamental ingredients of
civilisation:
Compassion, democracy, ethics and scientific method. No civilisation can
survive without all four of these.
Talk about assertions without any
Klortho wrote:
The other thing I do is check to what extent a person's speech and
writings support and affirm the four fundamental ingredients of
civilisation:
Compassion, democracy, ethics and scientific method. No civilisation can
survive without all four of these.
Talk about
On Feb 25, 2:06 am, Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Believing in Divine Destiny is one of the pillars of faith, and, in
accordance with this belief, everything in the universe is determined
by God, the All-Mighty. While there are countless absolute
How can we argue for God's existence and unity in a way everyone can
understand?
In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate.
So God sets forth parables for men in order that they may bear (them)
in mind and take lessons (through them). (14:25)
Such parables do we set forth for men so
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jesus said: I and the Father are one (Jn.10:30), therefore, is not
Jesus the same, or, co-equal in status with his Father?
Answer No.1
In Greek, `heis' means `one' numerically (masc.)
`hen' means `one' in unity or essence (neut.)
Here the word used by John is `hen'
accept it, even if it can be shown that I genuinely believe
what I am claiming.
Stathis Papaioannou
On 2/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 25, 2:06 am, Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Believing in Divine Destiny is one
Believing in Divine Destiny is one of the pillars of faith, and, in
accordance with this belief, everything in the universe is determined
by God, the All-Mighty. While there are countless absolute evidences
of Destiny, it may be sufficient to make some introductory remarks to
demonstrate how
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Believing in Divine Destiny is one of the pillars of faith, and, in
accordance with this belief, everything in the universe is determined
by God, the All-Mighty. While there are countless absolute evidences
of Destiny, it may be sufficient to make some introductory
On 2/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Believing in Divine Destiny is one of the pillars of faith, and, in
accordance with this belief, everything in the universe is determined
by God, the All-Mighty. While there are countless absolute evidences
of Destiny, it may be sufficient
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