On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:02 PM, John Mikes wrote:
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> Random is (IMO) out: how would you justify ANY of the physical laws and
> their consequences if 'random' occurrences may intrude
>
Easy, just change from "if X and Y then Z" to "if X and Y then usually Z".
In fact that is exactly what
On Friday, September 6, 2013 at 2:53:10 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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> On 9/6/2013 1:02 PM, John Mikes wrote:
>
> Evgeniy, it was a while ago when I read (and enjoyed) David Bohm.
> Since then I modified many of my ideas and included 'newer' ideas into
> them. I cannot resort to ancient (?) thinker
On Sunday, September 1, 2013 at 6:39:32 AM UTC-7, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
>
> I am reading David Bohm, Thought as a System. A few quotes below to the
> theme that is quite often under discussion here.
>
> Evgenii
>
> p. 72 “We have to be able to think on this clearly; even
I have finished reading the book. As usual, there is no direct answer.
Well,
p. 220 "freedom is the creative perception of a new order of necessity."
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On 9/6/2013 1:02 PM, John Mikes wrote:
Evgeniy, it was a while ago when I read (and enjoyed) David Bohm.
Since then I modified many of my ideas and included 'newer' ideas into them. I cannot
resort to ancient (?) thinkers: our knowledge is evolving.
Random is (IMO) out: how would you justify ANY
hen the meaning
>> is unchanged. Bohm says, "If everything is conditioned there's no way
>> out." I don't know where he thinks "out" is, but if somethings are
>> random then he can get there.
>>
>> Brent
>>
>>
>>> Evge
the meaning
is unchanged. Bohm says, "If everything is conditioned there's no way
out." I don't know where he thinks "out" is, but if somethings are
random then he can get there.
Brent
Evgenii
Brent
On 9/1/2013 6:39 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
I am reading David Bo
nditioned" everywhere then the meaning is unchanged. Bohm says, "If everything is
conditioned there's no way out." I don't know where he thinks "out" is, but if somethings
are random then he can get there.
Brent
Evgenii
Brent
On 9/1/2013 6:39 AM, Evgenii R
wrote:
I am reading David Bohm, Thought as a System. A few quotes below to
the theme that is quite often under discussion here.
Evgenii
p. 72 “We have to be able to think on this clearly; even though,
as I said, that by itself won’t really change the reflexes. But if
we don’t think of it clearly
Unconditioned=random works.
Brent
On 9/1/2013 6:39 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
I am reading David Bohm, Thought as a System. A few quotes below to the theme that is
quite often under discussion here.
Evgenii
p. 72 “We have to be able to think on this clearly; even though, as I said, that by
I am reading David Bohm, Thought as a System. A few quotes below to the
theme that is quite often under discussion here.
Evgenii
p. 72 “We have to be able to think on this clearly; even though, as I
said, that by itself won’t really change the reflexes. But if we don’t
think of it clearly
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