On 3 March 2014 17:40, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
What if someone says that the function of the brain is to provide
consciousness. Is that functionalism?
What if someone says that the function of the brain is to link a divine
soul to a person through a body?
What is a function?
On 03 Mar 2014, at 11:36, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 3 March 2014 17:40, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
What if someone says that the function of the brain is to provide
consciousness. Is that functionalism?
What if someone says that the function of the brain is to link a
divine
On 02 Mar 2014, at 08:09, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 1 March 2014 01:40, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
If you start with the assumption that the physics relevant to brain
function is not computable then computationalism is false: it
would be
impossible to make a machine
On 2 March 2014 22:18, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be javascript:;
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On 02 Mar 2014, at 08:09, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 1 March 2014 01:40, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be javascript:;
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If you start with the assumption that the physics relevant to brain
function is not
On 02 Mar 2014, at 18:51, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 2 March 2014 22:18, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 02 Mar 2014, at 08:09, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 1 March 2014 01:40, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
If you start with the assumption that the physics
On 1 March 2014 01:40, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
If you start with the assumption that the physics relevant to brain
function is not computable then computationalism is false: it would be
impossible to make a machine that behaves like a human, either zombie
or conscious.
I
On 26 Feb 2014, at 13:08, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 26 February 2014 04:51, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
The point of this is that if the brain is responsible for
consciousness it is absurd to suppose that the brain's behaviour
could
be replaced with a functional analogue
On 2/28/2014 6:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
If you start with the assumption that the physics relevant to brain
function is not computable then computationalism is false: it would be
impossible to make a machine that behaves like a human, either zombie
or conscious.
I agree with you, the
On 28 Feb 2014, at 22:11, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/28/2014 6:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
If you start with the assumption that the physics relevant to brain
function is not computable then computationalism is false: it
would be
impossible to make a machine that behaves like a human, either
On 26 February 2014 04:51, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
The point of this is that if the brain is responsible for
consciousness it is absurd to suppose that the brain's behaviour could
be replaced with a functional analogue while leaving out any
associated qualia. This constitutes a
On 24 Feb 2014, at 06:25, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 24 February 2014 12:43, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
John Searle in one of his papers proposes that if our brain were
being
gradually replaced we would find ourselves losing qualia while
declaring
that everything was normal, and
Sounds (vaguely) similar to Fred Pohl's A Plague of Pythons.
On 24 February 2014 20:14, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 2/23/2014 10:21 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 24 February 2014 16:49, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 2/23/2014 9:26 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Monday, February 24, 2014 12:45:36 AM UTC, David Nyman wrote:
On 23 February 2014 17:27, Stathis Papaioannou stat...@gmail.comjavascript:
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John Searle in one of his papers proposes that if our brain were being
gradually replaced we would find ourselves losing qualia while
On 24 February 2014 11:27, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
Yo David, You said somewhere you had a thought for how consciousness might
be. I'm into that one at the moment so I'd be interested to hear anything
you have to say. Assuming it's not secret squirrel - which if it is mazel
tov geezer you go
On Monday, February 24, 2014 1:05:17 PM UTC, David Nyman wrote:
On 24 February 2014 11:27, ghi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:
Yo David, You said somewhere you had a thought for how consciousness might
be. I'm into that one at the moment so I'd be interested to hear anything
you have to
On 24 February 2014 13:13, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, so long as you understood the sort of thing I was suggesting you had
said, I think you'd probably know if you had said it, so I guess I got you
mixed up. Sorry about that.
But I've no idea what you are suggesting I had said. Could you
On Monday, February 24, 2014 1:19:09 PM UTC, David Nyman wrote:
On 24 February 2014 13:13, ghi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:
Well, so long as you understood the sort of thing I was suggesting you had
said, I think you'd probably know if you had said it, so I guess I got you
mixed up.
On Monday, February 24, 2014 2:15:53 PM UTC, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, February 24, 2014 1:19:09 PM UTC, David Nyman wrote:
On 24 February 2014 13:13, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, so long as you understood the sort of thing I was suggesting you
had said, I think you'd probably
On 24 February 2014 14:22, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
I think you said something like I may have stumble [an explanation],,,
Oh, well that definitely wasn't me, then.
David
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On Monday, February 24, 2014 2:23:39 PM UTC, David Nyman wrote:
On 24 February 2014 14:22, ghi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:
I think you said something like I may have stumble [an explanation],,,
Oh, well that definitely wasn't me, then.
David
It possibly was you but you were
On Monday, February 24, 2014 4:03:06 PM UTC, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, February 24, 2014 2:23:39 PM UTC, David Nyman wrote:
On 24 February 2014 14:22, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
I think you said something like I may have stumble [an explanation],,,
Oh, well that definitely wasn't
On 25 February 2014 05:53, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
Now, 24 years later, there has been no improvement in our understanding,
no progress whatsoever in these fundamental issues of consciousness. I
think that I may actually have stumbled on the real improvement, but it's
going to take a long
On 22 February 2014 05:59, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote:
If we make a bet we can never settle, since the idea is that if the
replacement is technically perfect the subject's behaviour will be
normal, and behaviour includes displays of emotion and verbal
descriptions of internal
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On 22 February 2014 05:59, Stathis Papaioannou
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If we make a bet we can never settle, since the idea is that if the
replacement is technically
On 23 February 2014 17:27, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote:
John Searle in one of his papers proposes that if our brain were being
gradually replaced we would find ourselves losing qualia while declaring
that everything was normal, and being unable to make any protest to the
On 24 February 2014 06:27, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, February 24, 2014, David Nyman da...@davidnyman.com wrote:
On 22 February 2014 05:59, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.comwrote:
If we make a bet we can never settle, since the idea is that if the
On 24 February 2014 12:43, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
John Searle in one of his papers proposes that if our brain were being
gradually replaced we would find ourselves losing qualia while declaring
that everything was normal, and being unable to make any protest to the
contrary. This would
On 24 February 2014 11:45, David Nyman da...@davidnyman.com wrote:
On 23 February 2014 17:27, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote:
John Searle in one of his papers proposes that if our brain were being
gradually replaced we would find ourselves losing qualia while declaring
that
On 2/23/2014 9:26 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 24 February 2014 11:45, David Nyman da...@davidnyman.com wrote:
On 23 February 2014 17:27, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote:
John Searle in one of his papers proposes that if our brain were being
gradually replaced we would find
On 2/23/2014 10:21 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 24 February 2014 16:49, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 2/23/2014 9:26 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 24 February 2014 11:45, David Nyman da...@davidnyman.com wrote:
On 23 February 2014 17:27, Stathis Papaioannou
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocampal_prosthesis
Interesting wiki on the state of the art in partial substitution /
emulation of brain function (check out recent development). Looks like
somebody's going to have the opportunity to say yes to the doctor as early
as next year.
David
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Looks like the start of the famous piecemeal replacement - any bets on
whether this will cause fading qualia (or fading emotions for the
hippocampus) ?
Or to quote the cybermen You will be like uzzz...
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On 22 February 2014 13:00, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like the start of the famous piecemeal replacement - any bets on
whether this will cause fading qualia (or fading emotions for the
hippocampus) ?
Or to quote the cybermen You will be like uzzz...
If we make a bet we can never
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