Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-06 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 , meekerdb wrote: > > In general you can't assume that it takes one critical mass to make a > bomb. > You do unless you're very sophisticated, otherwise it will likely take you more than one critical mass to make a bomb, for example the critical mass of U235 is 114 pounds bu

Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-06 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Agreed. -Original Message- From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List To: everything-list Sent: Sun, Apr 5, 2015 9:37 pm Subject: RE: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@google

Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-06 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
-list Sent: Sun, Apr 5, 2015 5:37 pm Subject: Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia On 4/5/2015 2:05 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Really, it's an interesting piece of tech, but it just seems too clumsy and too costly. There are 442 nuclear powe

Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-05 Thread meekerdb
On 4/5/2015 9:30 PM, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 4:39 PM, meekerdb > wrote: > Then the U233 can be siphoned off and used. A 2GW LFTR is expected to produce about 60Kg of excess U233 per year; enough for 7 to 8 nuclear weapons. I question

Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-05 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 4:39 PM, meekerdb wrote: > The reason LFTRs have been touted as proliferation resistant is that the > U233 is mixed with U232 which makes its use in a weapons almost impossible. The intense gamma rays given off by U232 is one reason no nation has a U233 bomb in its stockp

RE: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-05 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 2:05 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia Really, it's an interesting piece of tech, but it just seems too c

Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-05 Thread meekerdb
On 4/5/2015 2:05 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Really, it's an interesting piece of tech, but it just seems too clumsy and too costly. There are 442 nuclear power reactors in operation. France gets most of it's electrical power from nukes. If nuclear power plants had been discov

Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-05 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
rdb To: everything-list Sent: Sun, Apr 5, 2015 4:39 pm Subject: Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia On 4/5/2015 11:09 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: > Actually compared with the Uranium fuel cycle the Thorium fuel cycle is neutron poor, a > LFTR

RE: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-05 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
-Original Message- From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:40 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia On 4/5/2015 11:09 AM, 'Chr

Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-05 Thread meekerdb
On 4/5/2015 11:09 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: Actually compared with the Uranium fuel cycle the Thorium fuel cycle is neutron poor, a LFTR produces enough neutrons to burn up 100% of the Thorium but there isn't a lot of wiggle room, however this is an advantage not a disad

RE: [SPAM]Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-05 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:59 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: [SPAM]Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia On 4/4/2015 7:45 PM, 'Chris de Mor

RE: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-05 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:55 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 'Chris de Morsella

Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-05 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:>> > Also, and this is a major point in its favor LFTR reactor types would be > walk away safe. Because the U233 fuel plus fertile thorium is solution in > the fluoride salt coolant a simple and

Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-04 Thread meekerdb
On 4/4/2015 7:45 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: Whatever the breeder fuel cycle: LFTR or the (seems like the Russians are going in that direction) plutonium economy; inherent passive safety features are critical. If we learned anything from Fukushima, I would argue that one o

RE: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-04 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 6:58 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia On 4/4/2015 5:58 PM, John Clark wrote: On Sat

Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-04 Thread meekerdb
On 4/4/2015 5:58 PM, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> wrote: > Has anybody been following this. Looks like the lead cooled fast breeder design is being carried ahead in Russia. It doesn't need hi

Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-04 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Has anybody been following this. Looks like the lead cooled fast breeder > design is being carried ahead in Russia. > It doesn't need high pressure which is good and, if there is a leak the

Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-04 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Sent: Sat, Apr 4, 2015 3:35 pm Subject: RE: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia I have been following the publicly available information on development of the various GenIV breeder variants. Am curious as to how much actual progress the Russians may have made in pursuing this one parti

RE: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-04 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
may (or may not) grow. From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 9:55 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia I have literally monitored developments for

Re: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-04 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
transportation. Yes, this view is disappointing, but true. -Original Message- From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List To: everything-list Sent: Sat, Apr 4, 2015 12:26 am Subject: RE: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia Has anybody been following this. Look

RE: Fast moves for nuclear development in Siberia

2015-04-03 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
Has anybody been following this. Looks like the lead cooled fast breeder design is being carried ahead in Russia. An experimental lead-cooled nuclear reactor will be built at the Siberian Chemical Combine (SCC). If successful, the small BREST-300 unit could be the first of a new wave of Russia