Re: Looking for energy in all the wrong places.

2013-06-25 Thread Stephen Paul King
Ah, an even more elegant argument against ZPE than the off-mass shell argument. Thanks for that tip, Brent. :-) On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 7:38 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 6/25/2013 1:27 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote: > > One wonders why this simple observed fact does not percolate down to the > masse

Re: Looking for energy in all the wrong places.

2013-06-25 Thread meekerdb
On 6/25/2013 1:27 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote: One wonders why this simple observed fact does not percolate down to the masses that continue to spout nonsense that is contrary to the fact. The zero point energy is, at best, electromagnetic in nature and since it is off-mass-shell" cannot contrib

Re: Looking for energy in all the wrong places.

2013-06-25 Thread Stephen Paul King
energy by 120 orders of > magnitude, probably the strongest falsification ever achieved. > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Roger Clough > > wrote: > >> *Looking for energy in all the wrong places. Plato's One vs. zero point >> energy >> >> as

Re: Looking for energy in all the wrong places.

2013-06-25 Thread Richard Ruquist
Astronomical observations of the cosmological constant has falsified the hypothesis that all energy comes from zero-point energy by 120 orders of magnitude, probably the strongest falsification ever achieved. On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > *Looking for energy in

Looking for energy in all the wrong places.

2013-06-25 Thread Roger Clough
Looking for energy in all the wrong places. Plato's One vs. zero point energy as the ultimate source of energy. If we compare the metaphysics of Aristostle and Plato, we see that Aristotle's fundamental level is the bottom level of Being, that of matter. Plato's metrap

Looking for energy in all the wrong places. Plato's One vs. zero point energy as the ultimate source of energy.

2013-06-25 Thread Roger Clough
Looking for energy in all the wrong places. Plato's One vs. zero point energy as the ultimate source of energy. If we compare the metaphysics of Aristostle and Plato, we see that Aristotle's fundamental level is the bottom level of Being, that of matter. Plato's metrap