Re: Peepee

2017-05-28 Thread John Clark
On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 1:40 PM, David Nyman wrote: ​ >> ​> ​ >> And I've been questioning, this is the fourth time, which word or words >> don't you understand.​ >> > > ​It is tedious to ask you again to reconsider your use of words ​about > whose application we clearly disagree rather fundament

Re: Peepee

2017-05-28 Thread David Nyman
On 28 May 2017 at 18:10, John Clark wrote: > On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 6:51 AM, David Nyman > wrote: > > ​>> ​ >> ​I ask again, which word didn't you understand?​ >> >> >> >> ​> ​ >> I've been questioning the implicit commitments that your wording >> conceals. >> > > ​And I've been questioning, th

Re: Peepee

2017-05-28 Thread John Clark
On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​> ​ > you introduce an ambiguity by eliminating the "1p" precision. [...] You > eliminate the FPI by eliminating the subject. ​But you've completely forgotten ​IHA. ​ John K Clark​ -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: Peepee

2017-05-28 Thread John Clark
On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 6:51 AM, David Nyman wrote: ​>> ​ > ​I ask again, which word didn't you understand?​ > > > > ​> ​ > I've been questioning the implicit commitments that your wording conceals. > ​And I've been questioning, this is the fourth time, which word or words don't you understand.​

Re: Peepee

2017-05-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
con Valley. ​I was able to figure out it was ​Bruno Marchal​ who said the following:​ ​> ​Yes. John Clark proceeds like that too. Saying "peepee" when we introduce the needed pov distinctions. And John Clark will continue to say "peepee" when Bruno Marchal​ insist

Re: Peepee

2017-05-28 Thread David Nyman
On 28 May 2017 2:09 a.m., "John Clark" wrote: On Sat, May 27, 2017 David Nyman wrote: ​> >> ​>​ >> ​ >> Data feels something? >> > > ​ > ​> ​ > Yes.​ > > > >> ​ >> ​> >> ​>>​ >> ​ >> Data feels something in a way?​ >> > > ​ > ​> ​ > Yes.​ > > > Ah, now I see what you mean. Proof by repetitive

Re: Peepee

2017-05-27 Thread John Clark
On Sat, May 27, 2017 David Nyman wrote: ​> >> ​>​ >> ​ >> Data feels something? >> > > ​ > ​> ​ > Yes.​ > > > >> ​ >> ​> >> ​>>​ >> ​ >> Data feels something in a way?​ >> > > ​ > ​> ​ > Yes.​ > > > Ah, now I see what you mean. Proof by repetitive assertion. > ​I'm glad you see what I mean, but

Re: Peepee

2017-05-27 Thread David Nyman
On 28 May 2017 12:36 a.m., "John Clark" wrote: On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 6:18 PM, David Nyman wrote: ​​> > >> What is >> ​actually ​ >> being claimed is that consciousness is the way data feels when it is >> being processed >> ​. >> > > ​> ​ > Data feels something? > ​Yes.​ > ​ > ​> ​ > Data

Re: Peepee

2017-05-27 Thread John Clark
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 6:18 PM, David Nyman wrote: ​​> > >> What is >> ​actually ​ >> being claimed is that consciousness is the way data feels when it is >> being processed >> ​. >> > > ​> ​ > Data feels something? > ​Yes.​ > ​ > ​> ​ > Data feels something in a way?​ > ​Yes.​ > ​> ​ > W

Re: Peepee

2017-05-27 Thread David Nyman
On 27 May 2017 at 21:20, John Clark wrote: > On Sat, May 27, 2017 David Nyman wrote: > > >> ​> ​ >> it is unscientific to ignore alternative modes of explanation when >> progress seems to be blocked >> > > ​Those ​ > alternative modes of explanation > ​ are not only ​ > unscientific > ​ there a

Re: Peepee

2017-05-27 Thread John Clark
On Sat, May 27, 2017 David Nyman wrote: > ​> ​ > it is unscientific to ignore alternative modes of explanation when > progress seems to be blocked > ​Those ​ alternative modes of explanation ​ are not only ​ unscientific ​ there are a complete waste of time because there is no way, even with u

Re: Peepee

2017-05-27 Thread David Nyman
air philosophers love to spin consciousness theories > on the internet, it's easy because no theory can be proved or disproved; > and that's why armchair philosophers never spin intelligence theories, > that's hard. Successful intelligence theorists aren't in armchairs, th

Peepee

2017-05-27 Thread John Clark
s, that's hard. Successful intelligence theorists aren't in armchairs, they're in Silicon Valley. ​I was able to figure out it was ​ Bruno Marchal ​ who said the following:​ *​> ​Yes. John Clark proceeds like that too. Saying "peepee" when we > introduce the needed p