On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 1:58 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
I'm all for sun and wind, but the storage and transmission issue may be a
lot harder to solve in the short term than building LFTRs.
I agree.
And even building LFTRs will probably take ten years for development.
In
We may need to use nuclear power but there are sensible and stupid ways to
do it, and maybe it's time to try the first of these.
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/271-38/24557-nuclear-radiation-releases-continue-in-new-mexico
On 3 July 2014 05:56, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 3 July 2014 05:56, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 1:58 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
I'm all for sun and wind, but the storage and transmission issue may be
a lot harder to solve in the short term than building LFTRs.
I agree.
And even
that shortly but I've got to go to work now.
John K Clark
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On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 8:20 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
a LFTR does make U233, and more that it needs to keep functioning by
about 8%.
That depends on how the LFTR is designed and operated, if done correctly
the figure is close to zero, just enough U233 to keep it going but no
Why has the nuclear sector stayed away from LFTR and favored the
current type of reactor design?
One word - bombs.
That's one of the reasons but there are others. Companies like GE and
Westinghouse have no reason to be interested in a LFTR, they don't make
reactors anymore (few people
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 8:50 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
In fact most deaths due to radiation accidents come from mishandling or
misusing medical radioisotopes. Here's a list of all fatalities from
radiation accidents. [...]
And here is a list of some other energy related
On 7/1/2014 4:36 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Do you see the average citizen wanting fission power nowadays? It seems cheaper and
quicker to go with sun and wind for electricity, once the storage issue is put in the
rear view mirror.
Actually there is no such evidence except
On 7/1/2014 9:17 AM, John Clark wrote:
Why has the nuclear sector stayed away from LFTR and favored the
current
type of reactor design?
One word - bombs.
That's one of the reasons but there are others. Companies like GE and Westinghouse have
no reason to be
On 7/1/2014 9:33 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 8:50 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
In fact most deaths due to radiation accidents come from mishandling or
misusing
medical radioisotopes. Here's a list of all fatalities from
On 2 July 2014 04:17, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
Why has the nuclear sector stayed away from LFTR and favored the
current type of reactor design?
One word - bombs.
That's one of the reasons but there are others. Companies like GE and
Westinghouse have no reason to be
On 6/30/2014 10:50 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 2:55 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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LFTR does not exist in reality (at least yet)
And that is not surprising given that the
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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Possibly the worst nuclear fission by product is Cessium-137 Fission
It's far from the worst but Cessium-137 is certainly dangerous and must be
dealt with carefully. Even a LFTR produces
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 6:42 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
There is no way on earth that environmentalists are going to convince
the world powers to get rid of nuclear submarines, so it's a waste of time
to even mention them.
Yes there is. Ignoring a problem doesn't magically make it
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On 6/29/2014 8:31 AM, John Clark wrote:
And a LFTR doesn't make Plutonium, present reactors do.
However, a LFTR does make U233, and more that it needs to keep functioning by about 8%.
Operating as designed this is contaminated with U232 which makes it unsuitable for a
bomb. But if the
On 30 June 2014 03:36, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 6:42 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
There is no way on earth that environmentalists are going to convince
the world powers to get rid of nuclear submarines, so it's a waste of time
to even mention them.
On 30 June 2014 06:55, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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Why has the nuclear sector stayed away from LFTR and favored the current
type of reactor design?
One word - bombs.
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On 30 June 2014 06:55, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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Why has the nuclear sector stayed away from LFTR and favored the current
type of
reactor design?
One word
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 3:37 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
I want to know how you're going to economically convert DC to AC.
I'm gonna trasmit DC because that's more efficient anyway.
Not unless it's at very high voltage! it's a struggle to get solar panels
to output at 20
On 27 June 2014 05:27, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 9:06 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Even if the cost of solar cells fell to zero it wouldn't be enough to
replace fossil fuels even at today's levels much less provide enough energy
to enable
On 27 June 2014 06:21, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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Why is it that the same people who believe that solar energy will get
a lot better in the future also believe that the
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 5:06 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Engineers solved the nuclear waste problem decades ago, but lawyers have
not solved it and in our society lawyers are far more important than
engineers so nothing gets done.
How was this solved?
The most dangerous radioactive
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 5:45 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Within each big square is a smaller 145 km by 145 km square showing the
area required in the desert – one New Jersey – to supply 30 million people
with 250 kWh per day per person
Same old problems. Never mind how you can
On 6/27/2014 9:07 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 5:45 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
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Within each big square is a smaller 145 km by 145 km square showing the
area
required in the desert – one New Jersey – to supply 30 million people
On 28 June 2014 03:27, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 5:06 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Engineers solved the nuclear waste problem decades ago, but lawyers
have not solved it and in our society lawyers are far more important than
engineers so nothing
On 28 June 2014 07:37, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
I want to know how you're going to economically convert DC to AC.
I'm gonna trasmit DC because that's more efficient anyway.
Yeah, AC's dangerous. Remember that poor elephant!
(I suppose she's the original elephant in the room
PPS whatever happened to Barak Obama's solar farms and superconducting DC
grid? :-)
On 28 June 2014 10:47, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 28 June 2014 07:37, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
I want to know how you're going to economically convert DC to AC.
I'm gonna trasmit DC
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On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 9:06 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Even if the cost of solar cells fell to zero it wouldn't be enough to
replace fossil fuels even at today's levels much less provide enough energy
to enable developing countries (the vast majority of the world) to equal or
even
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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Why is it that the same people who believe that solar energy will get a
lot better in the future also believe that the nuclear reactors with 1960's
technology that we all use today are as
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 6:13 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
the cost of solar panels is still in free fall
Even if the cost of solar cells fell to zero it wouldn't be enough to
replace fossil fuels even at today's levels much less provide enough energy
to enable developing countries (the
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On 26 June 2014 03:52, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 6:13 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
the cost of solar panels is still in free fall
Even if the cost of solar cells fell to zero it wouldn't be enough to
replace fossil fuels even at today's levels
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A pity too, Australia is blessed with some prime sun... outback, and
has some world class talent in photovoltaic university research, as
well, from what I hear.
Indeed - although with a string of
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I just learned that this is the 351st consecutive month where the global
temperature was hotter than the 20th century average. (On the plus side, my
hot flushes can be explained...)
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How do we go with Iceland's model? 100% renewables. Just a small countrybut
they jailed the banksters. No one else did that.
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Iceland
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A pity too, Australia is blessed with some prime sun... outback, and
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Cool!
(So to speak)
On 23 June 2014 16:25, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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Thought this bit of news was interesting. Yes… it was a holiday, but still
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:25 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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more than half of a summer day peak demand of the major European economy
coming from solar electricity,
Germany has encouraged solar energy with huge subsidies more aggressively
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more than half of a summer day peak demand of the major European economy
coming from solar electricity,
Germany
PS sorry that came out in a big font despite my efforts to reformat it into
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On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:25 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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more than half of a summer day peak demand of the major European economy
coming from solar electricity,
On 24 June 2014 11:02, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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And the oil, gas, coal nuclear energy sectors enjoy no government
subsidies at all and they are not externalizing huge on-going costs onto
the commons right? -- snicker... thought everyone
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energy use - 50 percent comes
from solar (Update)
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And the oil, gas, coal nuclear energy sectors enjoy no government
subsidies at all and they are not externalizing huge on-going costs onto
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Thought this bit of news was interesting. Yes. it was a holiday, but still
more than half of a summer day peak demand of the major European economy
coming from solar electricity, is a pretty major milestone.
Chris
http://phys.org/news/2014-06-germany-day-energy-percent-solar.html
The
Cool!
(So to speak)
On 23 June 2014 16:25, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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Thought this bit of news was interesting. Yes… it was a holiday, but still
more than half of a summer day peak demand of the major European economy
coming from solar
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