Re: The universe consists of patterns of arrangement of 0's and 1's?

2002-12-01 Thread Osher Doctorow
elds and disciplines than composition and functors and objects in categories for example. Osher Doctorow - Original Message - From: "Tim May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 11:45 AM Subject: Re: The universe consists of patt

RE: The universe consists of patterns of arrangement of 0's and 1's?

2002-11-30 Thread Ben Goertzel
> (I think Egan gives us a fairly plausible, fictional timeline for > figuring this stuff out: a workable TOE by the middle of this century, > i.e., within our lifetimes. That is, a theory which unifies relativity > and QM, and which is presumably also brings in QED, QCD, etc. ... > Then perhaps

Re: The universe consists of patterns of arrangement of 0's and 1's?

2002-11-30 Thread Tim May
On Friday, November 29, 2002, at 02:44 AM, Marchal Bruno wrote: Stephen Paul King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree completely with that aspect of Bruno's thesis. ;-) It is the assumption that the 0's and 1's can exist without some substrate that bothers me. If we insist on making such an as

Re: The universe consists of patterns of arrangement of 0's and 1's?

2002-11-28 Thread jamikes
ead Hal's supposed opinion on the counterfactual. John M - Original Message - From: "Stephen Paul King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 7:11 PM Subject: Re: The universe consists of patterns of arrangement of 0's and

Re: The universe consists of patterns of arrangement of 0's and 1's?

2002-11-27 Thread Stephen Paul King
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Re: The universe consists of patterns of arrangement of 0's and 1's?

2002-11-27 Thread jamikes
]> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 8:34 PM Subject: Re: The universe consists of patterns of arrangement of 0's and 1's? > Dear Eric, > > I like your idea! But how do we reconsile your notion with the notion > expressed by Russell: > > > From: "Russell Sta

Re: The universe consists of patterns of arrangement of 0's and 1's?

2002-11-27 Thread Eric Hawthorne
Stephen Paul King wrote: Dear Russell, Neat! I have been thinking of this idea in terms of a "very weak anthropic principle" and a "communication principle". Roughtly these are: "All observations by an observer are only those that do not contradict the existence of the observer" and "any comm

Re: The universe consists of patterns of arrangement of 0's and 1's?

2002-11-26 Thread Stephen Paul King
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Re: The universe consists of patterns of arrangement of 0's and 1's?

2002-11-26 Thread James N Rose
Stephen, Eric is taking the quest to its logical conclusion. Even Steve Wolfram hints that pure space is the source of all instantiation. So the only question that needs resolution is specifying the natural of the architecture of that space - and - identifying how it brings entities forces, part

Re: The universe consists of patterns of arrangement of 0's and 1's?

2002-11-26 Thread Russell Standish
In my paper "Why Occam's Razor", I identify a postulate called the "projection postulate", which in words is something like "An observer necessarily projects out an actual from the space of possibilities" Mathematically, this corresponds to choosing a subset from the set of all descriptions. My pa

Re: The universe consists of patterns of arrangement of 0's and 1's?

2002-11-26 Thread Stephen Paul King
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Eric Hawthorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "James N Rose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:21 PM Subject: Re: The universe consists of patterns of arrangement of 0's and 1's? > It works

Re: The universe consists of patterns of arrangement of 0's and 1's?

2002-11-26 Thread Russell Standish
e it. If we take these two ideas seriously, is there any way > that we can have both? > > Kindest regards, > > Stephen > > > ----- Original Message - > From: "Eric Hawthorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PR

Re: The universe consists of patterns of arrangement of 0's and 1's?

2002-11-26 Thread Stephen Paul King
Kindest regards, Stephen - Original Message - From: "Eric Hawthorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:36 PM Subject: Re: The universe consists of patterns of arrangement of 0's and 1

Re: The universe consists of patterns of arrangement of 0's and 1's?

2002-11-26 Thread Eric Hawthorne
As I mentioned in an earlier post, titled "quantum computational cosmology" why don't we assume/guess that the substrate (the fundamental concept of the universe or multiverse) is simply a capacity for there to be difference, but also, a capacity for all possible differences (and thus necessaril

Re: The universe consists of patterns of arrangement of 0's and 1's?

2002-11-26 Thread Stephen Paul King
Dear Ben, I agree completely with that aspect of Bruno's thesis. ;-) It is the assumption that the 0's and 1's can exist without some substrate that bothers me. If we insist on making such an assuption, how can we even have a notion of distinguishability between a 0 and a 1?. To me, its an