Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
say. Nobody can say for sure, but we can try theories, and confront them with what they predict, at least if we want share our intuitions. Bruno > > > -Original Message- > From: Philip Thrift > To: Everything List > Sent: Wed, Oct 3, 2018 3:58 pm > Subject: Re:

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 4 Oct 2018, at 09:23, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > >> On 3 Oct 2018, at 23:49, Chris J > > wrote: >> >> Question: If God is the 3-character ASCII sequence G-O-D, does that require >> God to be American? >> >> If not, then what, Unicode? UTF-8? ISO/IEC 10646

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-04 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
3:58 pm Subject: Re: Tao and Physics On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 11:45:25 AM UTC-5, spudb...@aol.com wrote: Here is the 3 letter ascii symbol for God ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Flying nun /‾‾(ツ)‾‾\ - pt -Original Message- From: John Clark To

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 3 Oct 2018, at 23:49, Chris J wrote: > > Question: If God is the 3-character ASCII sequence G-O-D, does that require > God to be American? > > If not, then what, Unicode? UTF-8? ISO/IEC 10646? God, the notion, (not a special theory) is defined by whatever is responsible for us to exis

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 3 Oct 2018, at 21:51, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 10/3/2018 1:10 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> Consider any digital machine. It corresponds to some number k (such that >> phi_k(x) = y describes the behaviour of the machine k) (digital machine are >> recursively enumerable). >> >> The

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-03 Thread Chris J
Question: If God is the 3-character ASCII sequence G-O-D, does that require God to be American? If not, then what, Unicode? UTF-8? ISO/IEC 10646? Same for Bruno, I am also curious about this question for notation for the Löbian Machine. And if not for this very instant, then I ask what encodin

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-03 Thread Philip Thrift
To: everything-list > > Sent: Wed, Oct 3, 2018 12:10 pm > Subject: Re: Tao and Physics > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 11:27 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > > > *Please read Plotinus or Proclus* > > > Not a snowball's chance in hell!! I'd learn more sc

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-03 Thread Brent Meeker
On 10/3/2018 1:10 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Consider any digital machine. It corresponds to some number k (such that phi_k(x) = y describes the behaviour of the machine k) (digital machine are recursively enumerable). The theology of the machine k is define by the set of all true sentence a

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-03 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Here is the 3 letter ascii symbol for God ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Original Message- From: John Clark To: everything-list Sent: Wed, Oct 3, 2018 12:10 pm Subject: Re: Tao and Physics On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 11:27 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: > Please read Plotinus or Proc

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-03 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Read both. Made me wonder about the quantum & Bohmian mechanics? -Original Message- From: John Clark To: everything-list Sent: Tue, Oct 2, 2018 9:53 am Subject: Re: Tao and Physics On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 7:53 AM Lawrence Crowell wrote: > Fritz Capra wrote a book tit

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-03 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 11:27 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: > > *Please read Plotinus or Proclus* > Not a snowball's chance in hell!! I'd learn more science and mathematics from reading Mother Goose. >>So there is not one God there are an infiniti of them > > > *>No, there is only one. The reason w

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 3 Oct 2018, at 14:51, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 4:10 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > >>Bruno, whenever you use that word [theology] or the G word you just lose > >>me, I don't know what you're talking about. > > >Consider any digital machine.

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-03 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 4:10 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: >>Bruno, whenever you use that word [theology] or the G word you just lose >> me, I don't know what you're talking about. > > *>Consider any digital machine. It corresponds to some number k [...] The > theology of the machine k is define by the

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 2 Oct 2018, at 18:18, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 12:04 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > > Mysticism is certainly not bullshit when you understand that any universal > > number/set believing in “enoughinduction” axioms discover his own theology >

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-02 Thread Philip Thrift
My Tao of quantum mechanics is simple: QM is baffling for those who turn away from retrodependency* and stochasticity. * https://aeon.co/essays/can-retrocausality-solve-the-puzzle-of-action-at-a-distance - pt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "

RE: Tao and Physics

2018-10-02 Thread Philip Benjamin
ything-list@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Lawrence Crowell Tuesday, October 02, 2018 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Tao and Physics On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 3:39:17 AM UTC-5, kujawski...@gmail.com<mailto:kujawski...@gmail.com> wrote: My friend is not physicist I think she understand physics on

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-02 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 12:04 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: *> Mysticism is certainly not bullshit when you understand that any > universal number/set believing in “enoughinduction” axioms discover his own > theology* [...] Bruno, whenever you use that word or the G word you just lose me, I don't know

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 2 Oct 2018, at 15:53, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 7:53 AM Lawrence Crowell > mailto:goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > Fritz Capra wrote a book titled The Tao of Physics. I read it in high > > school and again as an undergraduate. This book is probably on

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-02 Thread kujawskilucjan85
Thank you Lawrence for your clarification, but is it possibile that taoist mistics had some intuitive glimpse of that reality described by quantum theory? Maybe this od the case? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscrib

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-02 Thread kujawskilucjan85
Thank you, very interesting response. I don't know if she was after Capra, she have pointed me to Shantena Augusto Sabbadini https://youtu.be/YcKbpMIelMo 0:00 - 27:00 - part is introduction to double slit experiment 27:30 he start relating physics to words of Laozi -- You received this messa

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-02 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 7:53 AM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: *> Fritz Capra wrote a book titled The Tao of Physics. I read it in high > school and again as an undergraduate. This book is probably one of the most > reviled book by physicists, though a few think it is g

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-02 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 8:39:17 AM UTC, kujawski...@gmail.com wrote: > > My friend is not physicist I think she understand physics on > popular-science level same as me. Few days ago she told me that > contemporary physics show something about what ancient taoists sages was > talking -

Re: Tao and Physics

2018-10-02 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 3:39:17 AM UTC-5, kujawski...@gmail.com wrote: > > My friend is not physicist I think she understand physics on > popular-science level same as me. Few days ago she told me that > contemporary physics show something about what ancient taoists sages was > talking -

Tao and Physics

2018-10-02 Thread kujawskilucjan85
My friend is not physicist I think she understand physics on popular-science level same as me. Few days ago she told me that contemporary physics show something about what ancient taoists sages was talking - Tao - unnamed, undivided reality. I was not able to argue with her becourse of my low u