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On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 11:54:34AM -0400, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Very well, Professor Standish, given that, could the Hubble Volume
tself, then be considered as one CA
conclusion. All
about the same time.
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On 4 October 2013 10:38, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Does anyone
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From: Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au
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Very well, Professor
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On 02 Oct 2013, at 03:56, Russell Standish wrote:
On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 02:54:51PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 01 Oct 2013, at 01:30
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On 4 October 2013 10:38, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Does anyone know any phenomena in nature or science that duplicates the
behavior of Cellular Automata? Does cell biology do
, 2013 8:13 pm
Subject: Re: The confluence of cosmology and biology
There are plenty of examples, but it will take too long to extract the
literature. For example, the Navier-Stokes equations describing fluid
flow can be simulated via an appropriate hex tiling (close packed
spheres) CA
, a trigger effect?
Mitch
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On 03 Oct 2013, at 23:38, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Does anyone
sense of our.
Bruno
Mitch
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On 03 Oct 2013, at 23:38, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Does
Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
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On 02 Oct 2013, at 03:56, Russell Standish wrote:
On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 02:54:51PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 01 Oct 2013
On 4 October 2013 10:38, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Does anyone know any phenomena in nature or science that duplicates the
behavior of Cellular Automata? Does cell biology do the tasks of CA, orbis
this merely, a mathematical abstraction? Does anything in physics come to
mind, when
of cosmology and biology
On 02 Oct 2013, at 03:56, Russell Standish wrote:
On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 02:54:51PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 01 Oct 2013, at 01:30, Russell Standish wrote:
The real universe is likely to be 11 dimensional, nonlocal with
around
10^{122} states, or 2^{10
On 01 Oct 2013, at 19:19, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/1/2013 5:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
CA are local. The universe cannot be a CA if comp is correct, and
the empirical violation of Bell's inequality confirms this comp
feature.
?? But CA are Turing universal, which means they can compute
On 02 Oct 2013, at 04:18, LizR wrote:
On 2 October 2013 14:56, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au
wrote:
There is no particular requirement for CAs to be local, although local
CAs are by far easier to study than nonlocal ones, so in practice they
usually are (cue obligatory lamp post
On 02 Oct 2013, at 03:56, Russell Standish wrote:
On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 02:54:51PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 01 Oct 2013, at 01:30, Russell Standish wrote:
The real universe is likely to be 11 dimensional, nonlocal with
around
10^{122} states, or 2^{10^{122}} possible universes,
On 01 Oct 2013, at 01:30, Russell Standish wrote:
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 04:22:13PM -0400, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Professor, Standish,
Speaking about Wolfram, some ten years ago, Wolfram opined that
why listen for ETI's when we can use computers to generate all we
need to know about
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n 01 Oct 2013, at 01:30, Russell Standish wrote:
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 04:22:13PM -0400, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Professor, Standish,
Speaking about Wolfram, some ten years ago, Wolfram opined that
why
On 30 Sep 2013, at 01:48, Craig Weinberg wrote:
But it really all comes down to the confluence of these various
factors that allows us to have this conversation in the first place,
Numbers can't have a confluence though. It's not sensation that is
primary, but sense. Sensation is a kind
: The confluence of cosmology and biology
On 01 Oct 2013, at 01:30, Russell Standish wrote:
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 04:22:13PM -0400, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Professor, Standish,
Speaking about Wolfram, some ten years ago, Wolfram opined that
why listen for ETI's when we can use computers to generate
On 10/1/2013 5:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
CA are local. The universe cannot be a CA if comp is correct, and the empirical
violation of Bell's inequality confirms this comp feature.
?? But CA are Turing universal, which means they can compute any computable universe. I
think there is an an
On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 9:45:09 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 30 Sep 2013, at 01:48, Craig Weinberg wrote:
But it really all comes down to the confluence of these various factors
that allows us to have this conversation in the first place,
Numbers can't have a confluence though.
On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 02:54:51PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 01 Oct 2013, at 01:30, Russell Standish wrote:
The real universe is likely to be 11 dimensional, nonlocal with around
10^{122} states, or 2^{10^{122}} possible universes, if indeed it is a
CA at all. Needles in haystacks is
On 2 October 2013 14:56, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
There is no particular requirement for CAs to be local, although local
CAs are by far easier to study than nonlocal ones, so in practice they
usually are (cue obligatory lamp post analogy).
Thanks, I was looking for that
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 03:18:34PM +1300, LizR wrote:
On 2 October 2013 14:56, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
There is no particular requirement for CAs to be local, although local
CAs are by far easier to study than nonlocal ones, so in practice they
usually are (cue
: Sat, Sep 28, 2013 10:15 pm
Subject: Re: The confluence of cosmology and biology
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 08:53:48AM +1300, LizR wrote:
On 28 September 2013 21:15, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 28 Sep 2013, at 09:44, LizR wrote:
So not an ongoing computation performed
LOL
-Chris
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Subject: Re: The confluence of cosmology and biology
Professor, Standish,
Speaking about Wolfram, some ten years ago
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 04:22:13PM -0400, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Professor, Standish,
Speaking about Wolfram, some ten years ago, Wolfram opined that why listen
for ETI's when we can use computers to generate all we need to know about
Alien civilizations. I tried looking after what
On 28 Sep 2013, at 21:53, LizR wrote:
On 28 September 2013 21:15, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 28 Sep 2013, at 09:44, LizR wrote:
So not an ongoing computation performed by the universe,
What does that mean?
Actually I think I got confused, it isn't Max T who suggested that,
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Subject: The confluence of cosmology and biology
So it seems to me that all of us are situated within a spectacular confluence
of cosmological and biological factors.
The cosmological
But it really all comes down to the confluence of these various factors
that allows us to have this conversation in the first place,
Numbers can't have a confluence though. It's not sensation that is primary,
but sense. Sensation is a kind of sense and computation is a kind of
sensemaking, but
On 30 September 2013 12:48, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
Sensation is a kind of sense and computation is a kind of sensemaking, but
computation by itself can have no sensation.
So on this view the brain can't be an organic computer because it
experiences sensations?
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So not an ongoing computation performed by the universe, as suggested by,
say, Max Tegmark?
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On 28 Sep 2013, at 08:29, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
So it seems to me that all of us are situated within a spectacular
confluence of cosmological and biological factors.
The cosmological factors include the fact that dark energy hasn't
gotten strong enough to rip the whole works apart,
On 28 Sep 2013, at 09:44, LizR wrote:
So not an ongoing computation performed by the universe,
What does that mean?
as suggested by, say, Max Tegmark?
Can you give a reference? Thanks,
Bruno
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On 28 September 2013 21:15, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 28 Sep 2013, at 09:44, LizR wrote:
So not an ongoing computation performed by the universe,
What does that mean?
Actually I think I got confused, it isn't Max T who suggested that, but
didn't someone like John Conway
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 08:53:48AM +1300, LizR wrote:
On 28 September 2013 21:15, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 28 Sep 2013, at 09:44, LizR wrote:
So not an ongoing computation performed by the universe,
What does that mean?
Actually I think I got confused, it isn't
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