Re: Two reasons why computers IMHO cannot exhibit intelligence

2012-08-28 Thread Craig Weinberg
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 28, 2012 2:08 PM *To:* everyth...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* Re: Two reasons why computers IMHO cannot exhibit intelligence It's intentional hyperbole, not a non-sequitur. I am making the comparison between a program designed to produce simple patterns

RE: Two reasons why computers IMHO cannot exhibit intelligence

2012-08-28 Thread William R. Buckley
Weinberg Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 2:08 PM To: everyth...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: Re: Two reasons why computers IMHO cannot exhibit intelligence It's intentional hyperbole, not a non-sequitur. I am making the comparison between a program designed to produce simple patterns

Re: Two reasons why computers IMHO cannot exhibit intelligence

2012-08-28 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 8:03 AM, William R. Buckley bill.buck...@gmail.com wrote: Your latest argument flies in the face of the Turing Test. If I give you a machine that looks like Elvis, sounds like Elvis, …, you would say (well, typical people would say) that the machine is Elvis.

Re: Two reasons why computers IMHO cannot exhibit intelligence

2012-08-28 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: Stathis, Yes you've got it. It's worth mentioning that Turing did not intend his test to imply that machines could think, only that the closest we could come would be to construct machines that would be good at

Re: Two reasons why computers IMHO cannot exhibit intelligence

2012-08-28 Thread Craig Weinberg
*From:* everyth...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: everyth...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Craig Weinberg *Sent:* Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:22 PM *To:* everyth...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* Re: Two reasons why computers IMHO cannot exhibit

Two reasons why computers IMHO cannot exhibit intelligence

2012-08-27 Thread Roger Clough
Hi meekerdb IMHO I don't think that computers can have intelligence because intelligence consists of at least one ability: the ability to make autonomous choices (choices completely of one's own). Computers can do nothing on their own, they can only do what softward and harfdware tells them to

Re: Two reasons why computers IMHO cannot exhibit intelligence

2012-08-27 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 27 Aug 2012, at 13:07, Roger Clough wrote: Hi meekerdb IMHO I don't think that computers can have intelligence because intelligence consists of at least one ability: the ability to make autonomous choices (choices completely of one's own). Computers can do nothing on their own, they can

Re: Two reasons why computers IMHO cannot exhibit intelligence

2012-08-27 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: I don't think that computers can have intelligence But computers can solve equations better than you, play a game of chess better than you, be a better research librarian than you and win more money on Jeopardy than you; so it

Re: Two reasons why computers IMHO cannot exhibit intelligence

2012-08-27 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi meekerdb IMHO I don't think that computers can have intelligence because intelligence consists of at least one ability: the ability to make autonomous choices (choices completely of one's own). Computers can do

RE: Two reasons why computers IMHO cannot exhibit intelligence

2012-08-27 Thread William R. Buckley
Roger: I suggest that at root, you have vitalist sympathies. wrb From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger Clough Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 4:07 AM To: everything-list Subject: Two reasons why computers IMHO cannot exhibit

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