Re: Words, definitions, and Many "Worlds" ; (was Born's rule from almost nothing)

> On 2 Feb 2021, at 12:22, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 10:09 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: >> On 31 Jan 2021, at 06:48, Alan Grayson > > wrote: >> >> When a particle hits the screen in a double slit experiment, is that a

Re: Words, definitions, and Many "Worlds" ; (was Born's rule from almost nothing)

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 10:09 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 31 Jan 2021, at 06:48, Alan Grayson wrote: > > When a particle hits the screen in a double slit experiment, is that a > measurement? AG > > > You can say that it is a measurement from the screen point of view. But as > screen have no re-a

Re: Words, definitions, and Many "Worlds" ; (was Born's rule from almost nothing)

> On 31 Jan 2021, at 06:48, Alan Grayson wrote: > > When a particle hits the screen in a double slit experiment, is that a > measurement? AG You can say that it is a measurement from the screen point of view. But as screen have no re-accessible memory, it is better to define the measurement

Re: Words, definitions, and Many "Worlds" ; (was Born's rule from almost nothing)

> On 30 Jan 2021, at 12:26, John Clark wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 7:42 PM Bruce Kellett > wrote: > > > There is no requirement for an infinite number of degrees of freedom. > > In physics there will never be a theory that requires infinite degrees of > f

Re: Words, definitions, and Many "Worlds" ; (was Born's rule from almost nothing)

On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 5:58:59 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 5:20:14 PM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 7:01 PM Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> *>>> One of the features of Trumpism and Trump physics is Alzheimer's > onset.* >>>

Re: Words, definitions, and Many "Worlds" ; (was Born's rule from almost nothing)

On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 5:20:14 PM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 7:01 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > *>>> One of the features of Trumpism and Trump physics is Alzheimer's onset.* >>> >>> >>> >>So says 90+ year old Alan Grayson, if one believes his claim to h

Re: Words, definitions, and Many "Worlds" ; (was Born's rule from almost nothing)

On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 7:01 PM Alan Grayson wrote: *>>> One of the features of Trumpism and Trump physics is Alzheimer's >>> onset.* >> >> >> >>So says 90+ year old Alan Grayson, if one believes his claim to have >> co-authored a scientific paper with Carl Sagan. >> > > *> More evidence of Alzhe

Re: Words, definitions, and Many "Worlds" ; (was Born's rule from almost nothing)

On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 6:43:14 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 8:28 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > *> One of the features of Trumpism and Trump physics is Alzheimer's onset.* > > > So says 90+ year old Alan Grayson, if one believes his claim to have > co-author

Re: Words, definitions, and Many "Worlds" ; (was Born's rule from almost nothing)

On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 8:28 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> One of the features of Trumpism and Trump physics is Alzheimer's onset.* So says 90+ year old Alan Grayson, if one believes his claim to have co-authored a scientific paper with Carl Sagan. John K Clark See my new list at Extropolis

Re: Words, definitions, and Many "Worlds" ; (was Born's rule from almost nothing)

*One of the features of Trumpism and Trump physics is Alzheimer's onset. You made the claim, many times, that "measurement" is an ambiguous concept, as well as "observer". AG* On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 5:41:45 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 7:07 AM Alan Grayso

Re: Words, definitions, and Many "Worlds" ; (was Born's rule from almost nothing)

On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 7:07 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> For the double slit, say, a measurement occurs when a particle hits the > screen (time and location).* That's exactly what many worlds says, a measurement, if for some reason you'd like to use that word, is a change made in the universe and

Re: Words, definitions, and Many "Worlds" ; (was Born's rule from almost nothing)

*For the double slit, say, a measurement occurs when a particle hits the screen (time and location). The observer is anyone, or anything, that records the measurement. AG* On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 4:52:29 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 6:44 AM Alan Grayson w

Re: Words, definitions, and Many "Worlds" ; (was Born's rule from almost nothing)

On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 6:44 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > So you tell me, what is a measurement? >> > > * > I did, several times. * [,,,] *Same with "observer"* > Show me. Talk is cheap, stop telling me that you did and show me that you did! John K Clark See my new list at Extropolis

Re: Words, definitions, and Many "Worlds" ; (was Born's rule from almost nothing)

On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 4:36:50 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 12:48 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > *> More Trump physics? * > > > More profound revelations from self proclaimed Carl Sagan co-author Alan > Grayson? > > *> What's a measurement? * > > > Why on ea

Re: Words, definitions, and Many "Worlds" ; (was Born's rule from almost nothing)

On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 12:48 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> More Trump physics? * More profound revelations from self proclaimed Carl Sagan co-author Alan Grayson? *> What's a measurement? * Why on earth are you asking me of all people that question?!! In many worlds it doesn't matter one iota w

Re: Words, definitions, and Many "Worlds" ; (was Born's rule from almost nothing)

When a particle hits the screen in a double slit experiment, is that a measurement? AG On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 6:26:20 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > More Trump physics? What's a measurement? I have no clue. AG > > On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 4:27:00 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com >

Re: Words, definitions, and Many "Worlds" ; (was Born's rule from almost nothing)

More Trump physics? What's a measurement? I have no clue. AG On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 4:27:00 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 7:42 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: > > > *There is no requirement for an infinite number of degrees of freedom.* >> > > In physics there wi

Words, definitions, and Many "Worlds" ; (was Born's rule from almost nothing)

On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 7:42 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: > *There is no requirement for an infinite number of degrees of freedom.* > In physics there will never be a theory that requires infinite degrees of freedom, at least not until somebody performs an experiment with infinite accuracy, and I'm n