[Evolution] Evolution binaries for my own account in Linux

2020-02-11 Thread Van Snyder via evolution-list
I am using Scientific Linux 6.10. I'm not allowed to have the root password for my computer, so I can't install something newer. In Scientific Linux 6.10, the version of Evolution is 2.32.3. Sending a message using Evolution occasionally produces a message such as 550 DMARC Sender Inval

Re: [Evolution] Evolution binaries for my own account in Linux

2020-02-11 Thread Pete Biggs
> In Scientific Linux 6.10, the version of Evolution is 2.32.3. > > Sending a message using Evolution occasionally produces a message such > as > > 550 DMARC Sender Invalid - envelope rejected > > or > > 550-5.7.26 Unauthenticated email from ... is not accepted > due t

Re: [Evolution] Explanation of editor settings

2020-02-11 Thread S. Pfeifer
Hi there, I still missing a detailed explanation of the settings. Help please! Am Samstag, den 01.02.2020, 20:15 +0100 schrieb Andre Klapper: > On Sat, 2020-02-01 at 11:53 +0100, @web.de wrote: > > Unfortunately, the explanation in the help content is too general: > > Please tell us which specif

[Evolution] Proposal regarding apparent race condition on Evolution start-up

2020-02-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
I use Evolution (currently 3.34.3 but this issue has been around for a while) on KDE rather than Gnome. When I log in, there's a non-zero probability that Evo won't start correctly because gnome-keyring isn't running, i.e. Evo has started before g-k-r. The quick solution is to kill all Evo processe

[Evolution] evo new user questions

2020-02-11 Thread ard
Hi Just started using evo in a flatpak distribution on kde neon. Is there any way to configure the tool bars ? Can the 5 buttons on the left pane be resized /removed - I don't use tasks or memos. Lastly I use pop and retain mails on the server for 30 days, I did have show deleted and junk selecte

Re: [Evolution] evo new user questions

2020-02-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 13:53 +0100, ard wrote: > Hi > Just started using evo in a flatpak distribution on kde neon. Welcome to Evolution. Please remember when asking questions on this list that it's important to give your actual Evolution version (see Help->About). The specific distro is usually le

Re: [Evolution] evo new user questions

2020-02-11 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi and welcome! On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 13:53 +0100, ard wrote: > Just started using evo in a flatpak distribution on kde neon. > Is there any way to configure the tool bars ? See "HelpšŸ”’ContentsšŸ”’Customizing tool bar and menu items". > Can the 5 buttons on the left pane be resized /removed - I don'

Re: [Evolution] Explanation of editor settings

2020-02-11 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 11:19 +0100, S. Pfeifer wrote: > I still missing a detailed explanation of the settings. > > > On Sat, 2020-02-01 at 11:53 +0100, @web.de wrote: > > > I do not understand what the setting "folder preferred to sending > > > account" in EDITOR PREFERENCES/SENDING ACCOUT is exact

Re: [Evolution] Explanation of editor settings

2020-02-11 Thread ard
Hi I am using this version 3.34.3 (by Flathub.org) On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 14:43 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 11:19 +0100, S. Pfeifer wrote:> I still missing > a detailed explanation of the settings.>> > On Sat, 2020-02-01 at > 11:53 +0100, @web.de wrote:> > > I do not unders

Re: [Evolution] Explanation of editor settings

2020-02-11 Thread S. Pfeifer
Thanks Andre, now it is clear to me. Am Dienstag, den 11.02.2020, 14:43 +0100 schrieb Andre Klapper: > On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 11:19 +0100, S. Pfeifer wrote: > > I still missing a detailed explanation of the settings. > > > > > On Sat, 2020-02-01 at 11:53 +0100, @web.de wrote: > > > > I do not under

Re: [Evolution] Proposal regarding apparent race condition on Evolution start-up

2020-02-11 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 13:19 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Why should the user have to do this, or even know that it needs to be > done? If Evo depends on g-k-r for correct functioning, shouldn't it > take care of this itself? Hi, that would probably work, if evolution (and especially

Re: [Evolution] Proposal regarding apparent race condition on Evolution start-up

2020-02-11 Thread Pete Biggs
> that would probably work, if evolution (and especially evolution- > source-registry) talks to the gnome-keyring-daemon directly. It's not > the case, evolution(-data-server) uses libsecret and what libsecret > does in the background is up to it. The libsecret used to have issues > to work prope

Re: [Evolution] Proposal regarding apparent race condition on Evolution start-up

2020-02-11 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
Hi, On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 16:50 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > Am I right in thinking that libsecret doesn't specifically use gnome- > keyring? As far as I know, libsecret talks to org.freedesktop.secrets D-Bus service. It doesn't talk to a specific process, it uses whatever implements it. >

Re: [Evolution] Proposal regarding apparent race condition on Evolution start-up

2020-02-11 Thread Pete Biggs
> > > Is it possible that that under KDE it is trying to use > > ksecretservice because that happens to have already been started by > > KDE? > > Only if it provides the D-Bus service. I've been told, not so long ago, > that KDE still doesn't have org.freedesktop.secrets implementation. It > ca

Re: [Evolution] Proposal regarding apparent race condition on Evolution start-up

2020-02-11 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 17:20 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > Other posts I've seen have said that ksecretservice has died and that > there are no other applications that provide the same functionality > in KDE. So probably a theoretical issue, not a real-life one. Hi, you can search /usr/share/d

Re: [Evolution] Explanation of editor settings

2020-02-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 15:25 +0100, ard wrote: > Hi I am using this version > 3.34.3 (by Flathub.org) Three things: 1) You appear to have replied to the wrong message. The Subject line has nothing to do with your original question. 2) When replying, please don't top-post. Replies should come aft

Re: [Evolution] Proposal regarding apparent race condition on Evolution start-up

2020-02-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 16:24 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > I guess, and only guess, that the gnome-keyring-daemon had been > killed/stopped somewhere after step c), keeping libsecret without its > counterpart. > > What is the error message when you face this, please? Evo complains

Re: [Evolution] Proposal regarding apparent race condition on Evolution start-up

2020-02-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 15:50 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > that would probably work, if evolution (and especially evolution- > > source-registry) talks to the gnome-keyring-daemon directly. It's not > > the case, evolution(-data-server) uses libsecret and what libsecret > > does in the background is

Re: [Evolution] Proposal regarding apparent race condition on Evolution start-up

2020-02-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 17:34 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > you can search /usr/share/dbus-1/ for files containing > org.freedesktop.secrets . That would be the place where the service > should be properly advertised [*]. My installation contains only a > single file, referencing gnom

Re: [Evolution] Proposal regarding apparent race condition on Evolution start-up

2020-02-11 Thread Pete Biggs
> ksecretservice is definitely not running. In fact I don't think it's > even installed on my system. However kwalletd, which is the standard > KDE daemon, is running as well as gnome-keyring. If that's the source > of the trouble I don't see why killing Evo and restarting it would make > a diffe

Re: [Evolution] Evolution binaries for my own account in Linux

2020-02-11 Thread Van Snyder
On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 09:51 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > In Scientific Linux 6.10, the version of Evolution is 2.32.3. > > > > Sending a message using Evolution occasionally produces a message such > > as > > > > 550 DMARC Sender Invalid - envelope rejected > > > > or > > > > 55

Re: [Evolution] Problems with evolution

2020-02-11 Thread Mike via evolution-list
Ok, solved. Thanks for the help: I started evolution in the Terminal. It was quite clear that I do not own ~/.config/dconf So I changed that and works fine now... Best regards Mike Am Montag, den 10.02.2020, 23:11 +0100 schrieb Mike via evolution-list: > Hi there. > > I installed evolution